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during the bad times and our public employees union, they recognized that they have to flow with the economic times and two years ago, roughly, the state made 10 percent cut which we did, and the union, public employees, they hung with us, and, so they are very responsible if trying to work with wyoming and wyoming s government. we are looking at a live shot, inside the capital building there, in wisconsin, and governor, when you talked to some of the other governors out there with your meetings, are they having a hard time getting across to their people, look, we are in a dire situation with a $3 billion shortfall. man states, and illinois is worse; california is tell; florida. and other states. do the people get a feeling from the government that we re in really bad shape. guest: great question and i don t know if they do or not.