so how did it happen? have a listen to what the liverpool manager, jurgen klopp, said last week about where he thinks the blame lies for the decision to go to qatar. you are alljournalists. you have should have sent a message who didn t write the most critical article about it and not about because it s qatar and things nor about the circumstances, which was clear. and this is where we are guilty. that s how it is. but now, telling players you have to wear this armband or if you don t do it, then you are not on their side. and if you do it, you re on their side. no, no, no. it s footballers. it s a tournament we have to organise and the players go there and play and do the best for their countries. joining me isjoey durso investigations writer at rhe athletic, miles coleman, producer and writer of fifa, uncovered a new documentary on netflix, and beth fisher, who s a freelance sports broadcaster. welcome to you all. joey durso let s start with you. isjurgen klopp right that journalists
human rights groups have been calling on players to protest on the pitch. meanwhile, the disgraced former fifa boss, sepp blatter, said again this week that qatar should never have won the bid. so how did it happen? have a listen to what the liverpool manager, jurgen klopp, said last week about where he thinks the blame lies for the decision to go to qatar. you are alljournalists. you have should have sent a message who didn t write the most critical article about it and not about because it s qatar and things know about the circumstances, nor about the circumstances, which was clear. and this is where we are guilty. that s how it is. but now, telling players you have to wear this armband or if you don t do it, then you are not on their side. and if you do it, you re on their side. no, no, no. it s footballers. it s a tournament we have to organise and the players go there and play and do the best for their countries. joining me isjoey de sao, investigations writer
decision to go to qatar. you are alljournalists. you have should have sent a message who didn t write the most critical article about it and not about because it s qatar and things nor about the circumstances, which was clear. and this is where we are guilty. that s how it is. but now, telling players you have to wear this armband or if you don t do it, then you are not on their side. and if you do it, you re on their side. no, no, no. it s footballers. it s a tournament we have to organise and the players go there and play and do the best for their countries. joining me isjoey durso investigations writer at rhe athletic, miles coleman, producer and writer of fifa, uncovered a new documentary on netflix, and beth fisher, who s a freelance sports broadcaster. welcome to you all. joey durso, let s start with you. isjurgen klopp right that journalists dropped the ball on this one when it comes to qatar? no, i don t think he is. i think there s been lots of fantasticjournalism on this. i t
phones in those days. people weren t texting each other. there was no social media. you weren t looking out for what was on facebook or on twitter. it was a much simpler world, and alljournalists were working to. well, printjournalists were pretty much working to one deadline, the evening or maybe the later editions as well. the broadcastjournalists might have one outlook, like i used to have with newsnight or channel 4 news, and it was such a simpler world. well, now, even if we work for a daily paper or we work for, say, channelli news, we re tweeting all the time, we re still trying to get out our snippets of information ahead of our rivals and just putting it on the record that we got the quotes first. so, it s so much more complicated, but it s also so much more exciting, and you feel you re right at the heart of events, right at the heart of history being made. and frankly, today and yesterday are. you know, i think that it is a historic period in politics
when it s really hard not to want to be in the newsroom, not to want to sort of be following every twist and turn, cos it is one of the biggest political stories we ve had for a long time, particularly about the prime minister. obviously, we could talk about brexit, but, you know, this has been an astonishing day. and, michael crick, if i could bring you in at this stage, how do you compare how political operatives use the media today with how they might have used it, say, when margaret thatcher was under pressure several decades back? well, it s so much more complicated these days. i mean, way back in 1990, when margaret thatcher fell, there were so called lobbyjournalists. but, i mean, that would all be done literally within the members lobby of the house of commons, where they were. journalists and politicians would meet. people didn t have mobile phones in those days. people weren t texting each other. there was no social media. you weren t looking out for what was on facebook or