Mr. Elman, we just called this appeal. Were ready to have it heard when you are ready to start. Commissioners, since this matter is two appeals joined the parties will have 14 minutes to present their case. Mr. President and members of the board, i am howard elman representing the appellant, Carol Seligman and we are, the other appellant has granted us his time so that we could have a little bit more it make a coherent presentation to you, because there are some complex issues. What were asking for is that you revoke the permit thats been issued and require the permit to correct all the nonconforming uses. Our appeal is supported by testimony from fire experts jim mcmullen, mr. Moony who is here tonight, the state fire marshal for 7 years. He cannot here to testify as an expert tonight because he is testifying in some expert out of the city. Mark moony has equally strong credentials in the packet presented to you. He is here tonight and able to speak on those issues and answer question
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