and as far as this goes with the nato meeting, i don t think it s a significant issue for nato at all. as you know, nato as an alliance is not doing much to support ukraine at all. it is all individual allies making their own efforts in a variety of different ways and coordinated through this process that secretary of defense austin leads. so it s not really something that is a nato issue at this point. what i do think the issue will be at nato is what to say about ukraine s aspirations to become a member. i think it s important that the alliance go further than it has done in the past. former us ambassador to nato, kurt volker. and you can get more information on the story online on the bbc news website. or the bbc news app. much more is up there on the website, do have a look at this story.
opposing the us doing so, because they see what russia has been doing in ukraine, including with its use of these types of weapons, and that needs to be stopped. and as far as this goes with the nato meeting, i don t think it s a significant issue for nato at all. as you know, nato as an alliance is not doing much to support ukraine at all. it is all individual allies making their own efforts in a variety of different ways and coordinated through this process that secretary of defense austin leads. so it s not really something that is a nato issue at this point. what i do think the issue will be at nato is what to say about ukraine s aspirations to become a member. i think it s important that the alliance go further than it has done in the past. the former us ambassador to nato kurt volker. staying with ukraine, president volodymyr zelensky has returned from turkey, bringing with him five senior military commanders. here they are at a military airport.
to provide these munitions themselves or to use them. that does not mean that they are opposing the us doing so because they see what russia has been doing in ukraine, including with its use of these types of weapons, and that needs to be stopped. and as far as this goes with the nato meeting, i don t think it s a significant issue for nato s at all. as you know, nato as an alliance is not doing much to support ukraine at all. it is all individual allies making their own efforts in a variety of different ways and coordinated through this process that secretary of defense austin leads. so it s not really something that is nato s issue at this point. what i do think the issue will be at nato is what to say about ukraine s aspirations to become a member. i think it s important that the alliance go further than it has done in the past. saturday marks 500 days since russia s invasion of ukraine and president volodymyr zelensky has visited snake island, where ukrainian soldiers famously defi
most countries in nato, as prime minister said, are parties to this convention and so are not in a position to provide these munitions themselves or to use them. that does not mean that they are opposing the us doing so because they see what russia has been doing in ukraine, including with its use of these types of weapons, and that needs to be stopped. and as far as this goes with the nato meeting, i don t think it s a significant issue for nato s at all. as you know, nato as an alliance is not doing much to support ukraine at all. it is all individual allies making their own efforts in a variety of different ways and coordinated through this process that secretary of defence austin leads. so it s not really something that is nato s issue at this point. what i do think the issue will be at nato is what to say about ukraine s aspirations to become a member. i think it s important that the alliance go further than it has done in the past. the bbc s gordon corera has this analysis from k
has been doing in ukraine, including with its use of these types of weapons, and that needs to be stopped. and as far as this goes with the nato meeting, i don t think it s a significant issue for nato s at all. as you know, nato as an alliance is not doing much to support ukraine at all. it is all individual allies making their own efforts in a variety of different ways and coordinated through this process that secretary of defence austin leads. so it s not really something that is nato s issue at this point. what i do think the issue will be at nato is what to say about ukraine s aspirations to become a member. i think it s important that the alliance go further than it has done in the past. the bbc s gordon corera has this analysis from kyiv. here in ukraine there are no regrets about the provision of cluster munitions, it s something they ve been calling for here for months, really. they see it as something which is militarily important. i spoke to one of president zelensky stop ad