new yorker, quote the judge and the team were communicating behind the scenes with friends to refute the claim according to text messages obtained by nbc news. those texts sent between two of that the nominee was personally kavanaugh s friends suggest that the nominee was personally talking with former classmates about ramirez s story in advance of the new yorker article that made her allegation public. that is critically important because kavanaugh said under questioning and under oath that he learned about the ramirez allegation only when it was published in the new yorker. nbc news has confirmed that the fbi has spoken to ramirez. and the lawyer for kavanaugh s high school friend mark judge says he has also spoken with the fbi but that his interview has not been completed as of yet. last thursday the first accuser, dr. christine blasey ford, testified judge was the one in the room during kavanaugh s alleged assault during a house party.
communicating behind the scenes with friends to refute the claim, this according to text messages obtained by nbc news. text messages between friends of kavanaugh suggest that he was personally talking with former classmates about ramirez s story in advance of the new yorker article that made her allegation public. in fact, in one message kavanaugh asked her to go on the record in his defense. two others show communication between kavanaugh s team and former classmates in advance of this story. bertram has twice send a memo about the texts to the fbi and has yet to hear a response, this according to her lawyer. two days after ramirez s allegations were reported in now public transcripts from an interview with republican judiciary committee staff, kavanaugh claimed it was ramirez calling around to classmates trying to see if they remembered it.
to refute the claim according to text messages obtained by nbc news. those texts sent between two of kavanaugh s friends suggest that the nominee was personally talking with former classmates about ramirez s story in advance of the new yorker article that made her allegation public. that is critically important because kavanaugh said under questioning and under oath that he learned about the ramirez allegation only when it was published in the new yorker. nbc news has confirmed that the fbi has spoken to ramirez. and the lawyer for kavanaugh s high school friend mark judge says he has spoken with the fbi but that his interview has not been completed as of yet. last thursday the first accuser dr. christine blasey ford testified judge was the one in the room during the alleged assault. ford s friend leyland kaiser has taken part in an fbi interview.
about ramirez s story in advance of the new yorker article that made her allegation public. that is critically important because kavanaugh said under questioning and under oath that he learned about the ramirez allegation only when it was published in the new yorker. nbc news has confirmed that the fbi has spoken to ramirez. and the lawyer for kavanaugh s high school friend mark judge says he has spoken with the fbi but that his interview has not been completed as of yet. last thursday the first accuser dr. christine blasey ford testified judge was the one in the room during the alleged assault. ford s friend leyland kaiser has taken part in an fbi interview. there has been much debate over the scope of this investigation and democrats say they worry republicans may try to rein in the agents on this.
the threat before the pendulum comes back is the undermining of our institutions, from law enforcement to the media, to the way we nominate supreme court justices, because the whole american idea fits into the idea that people have a belief and a trust in the institutions that make it work. when those get undermined, including our election system, then people not believe it, that s very dangerous. i want to pick up our conversation from last hour before deborah ramirez accused judge kavanaugh of exposing himself, the judge and his team were communicating behind-the-scenes with friends to refute that claim. the messages between kerry bercham suggest he was talking with former classmates about ramirez story in advance of the new yorker article that made her allegation public. in one question kavanaugh asked