the first time, saving humanity from big brother conformity, the apple revolution has since stood for personalization, individual liberty and that have it your way mentality. yet, look around you and a new type of conformity has set in. white earbuds and silver-backed laptops abound. the revolution has settled in. is this the ground floor of anti-establishment mentality today? with me to parse all of this is matt welch editor in chief of reason magazine and irshad manji, the director of new york university s moral courage project and author of all alla liberty and love. welcome to the table and thank you for being here. we were talking before the break about this idea of sort of the power of the state and the state relative to particularly individual freedoms. i wanted to start with this notion of consumption because we went to this kind of free market of religious ideas and nothing