far enough and conservatives, powerful moderates in the democratic party; so, what now? guest: i agree, if boehner brought up that plan in the house of representatives, i don t think it would get more than 50 votes out of 435. there is in support. neil: you are right about that. guest: so we are back to the decide right now and the animosity between the parties, there is a wedge, now, and the president s has become the great divider, not the great negotiator. neil: all worked up, steve. guest: and we have this debt. neil: the world is ending but take a break. always good to see you. guest: the poverty rate goes up and unemployment rate goes up and middle income is following and the idea of raising taxes