you might be remember that the president was quite recently the subject of a very high-profile criminal investigation. one conducted by special counsel robert mueller. right? mueller s report, public defense of his report, said despite the fact justice department policy says you can t indict a president, that same justice department policy, explicitly permits a president to be investigated. that s why the mueller investigation happened. well, apparently that may have been true within the u.s. justice department as of may of this year, but now it s september. and now it s the contention of the trump administration that not only can a president not be indicted, he can t be investigated at all for anything. no matter what he does. and so, and the good thing here is at least they re putting all their cards on the table and they re doing so in court in a way that that contention in a way that means that contention will presumably now be tested in court? but it is a remarkable thing to
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clearly some sense of wrongdoing by the whistle-blower against the president, now we know that that centers on withdrew craukr. i think we re kind of getting closer to the nexus of these facts but right now, all we know is what we put in the paper and that s all we were prepared to report tonight. and shane, there has been some reporting from various news organizations over the course of the day that maybe the whistle-blower s complaint isn t about one thing that was done by the president, maybe it was about a series of events and this phone call with the foreign leader may have just been one thing. do you have any clarity in terms of whether or not this is about a specific single incident or whether this might be a broader complaint about a broader pattern or sequence of behavior? yeah, i think we got some more of that today. there s reporting that we have on our story as well, i believe it s in the new york times reporting tonight, too, when the inspector general for the intell
but through the support of the institution of the new york times that had the resources to get this done. people coming out is necessary. it is not necessarily sufficient. you do need the kind of work that you guys did and the kind of support you had to do it in order to make this happen. and you did. congratulations. thank you so much. thank you. it s great to have you here. thanks so much. jodi cantor, megan twohey, the new york times reporters behind the book. it is called she said: breaking the sexual harassment story that helped ignite a movement. you should read it. a lot of people are comparing this to ll all the president s men. and when it gets compared to all the president s men, all the president s men does not come out on the long end of the comparison. that does it for us tonight. now it s time for the last word with lawrence o donnell. good evening, lawrence. good evening, rachel. and we saw of course congressman adam schiff, the intelligence com
2017 on president trump s discussions in the oval office with two senior russian officials where he actually ended up divulging the source of an important counterintelligence source of information for the united states that was being managed by israel. after that, we understand sort of the paper that gets produced after a lot of these meetings, kind of seeing what was going on, is less distributed. that doesn t mean it s not distributed. so, of course, there s still channels that these things can get out. but, you know, there are a lot of people working in the white house on a lot of these issues. i don t know that it necessarily narrows it down very much. but this person would have conceivably could have been in a position to either have direct knowledge of this information based on those kinds of readouts or to be in a kind of universe of people who understand what s going on when the president does things like has a phone call with the president of ukraine. washington post natio