able to carry american astronauts to the space station around 2015. and i think it bears noting, martha, that right now the u.s. is wholly dependent on the russians for astronaut carriage to the space station, so we re hoping to be the domestic alternative there and provide the u.s. with an all-american company carrying u.s. astronauts to the space station at a price point that is significantly less than what the russians charge. martha: mr. hughes, thank you. very interesting to talk to you, and our thanks to cap chin gene c captain gene cernan, and that s the enterprise that we see there. it s getting bumped out of the garage, basically, to make room for discovery, and enterprise will be coming up here to new york, and that will be seen out here on the hudson river on the intrepid. pretty exciting. gregg: we are looking forward to that. all right. in the meantime, meltdown at 0,000 feet. remember this 30,000 feet. remember this?
money which was intended for shovel-ready infrastructure projects. which was intended to create jobs and it didn t happen. what the three hearings proved that management, the poor management started at the very top of gsa with the political leadership appointed by president obama. gregg: well this week we learned of alleged fraud, theft, misuse of federal taxpayer money. even kickbacks and bribes according to the inspector general. yes. gregg: neely s wife apparently had her own parking space at a federal building even though she isn t a federal employee. of course she was accompanying neely on all of these sew jurns. are you so journs. are you stunned at the depth and brelth of corruption. i m stunned because there are a lot of terrific employees that work at gsa every day. there is a political leadership that was appointed to watch the agency and they absolutely delegated all their
feigning an illness, a defete and trying to get defect and trying to get out of it. i think the you look at this tape, his conduct is not sane, and he s talking, he s ranting about iran, he s ranting about iraq, about jesus christ, he s rambling. gregg: you know, arthur, you don t think it s going to work here, you are so predictable. [laughter] tell us why. well, i ll tell you why. first of all, statistically speaking, i think it s only use inside 1% of all cases in the country, people invoke the insanity defense, and that s because it s only successful in about 20% of the time that it s used. and here s the kicker, gregg, when you re successful, when the jury says, yes, he s not responsible because he couldn t understand right from wrong, therefore, he goes to a mental institution. gregg: yeah. but he can be let out if after a period of time he is determined to be sane and not a threat to society. absolutely, your honor.
on the insanity i don t know about that. no, gregg, i do know about that. that is statistically black and white. there s no doubt about it. arthur, it s a fair point, but at the same time he s not in a penal institution, he would be getting the assistance and the help he needs the argument is, gregg, should he be in a penal institution. gregg: i m getting the hard rap, good discussion. thanks. martha: there s a new, stunning documentary, and it shows what life is really like for children who are severely bullied at school. and it also tells the tragic death of tyler. his mom and dad have a message for us all. we had heard that he had had his head shoved into a wall locker. some kids had told him to go hang his self, that he was worthless. and i think he got to the point where enough was enough. ugh! all work and no food is making lorenzo very snippy.
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