without any limbs. everything i know about the court says to me that this opinion is a legitimate true opinion, it s not some sort of deep fake, it looks lick a court opinion, it cracks like a court opinion, it talks like a justice alito opinion, so i think what you ve been saying is absolutely right. put starkly, this is the hugest setback for women in decade, the hugest stepback for reproduction in decades, and profound consequences and one thing that i don t think is expressly mentioned is the telling fact about the alito draft opinion. the mississippi law that it up holds has no exception for rape or incest, and this draft opinion by the supreme court says that is a-okay. so you can have now a flat ban on abortion, if this opinion becomes the law, in any state or as you were saying before, the federal government. and so it is both in terms of abortion, but also kind of the
uncertainty right now, and people are just trying to get their grounding. and then we re literally stripping the women of this country of their rights. if that happen, i think you re going to see repercussions like never before. they have basically stacked the court with these judges through various procedural games that they ve played in the senate, and now is the moment. and the only way that this gets decided, if this opinion gets issued as is, it s going to be state by state fights about this, with the automatic triggers going in place, in many. and then there s going to be a decision for congress. and it may be the election, for the house and the senate, it makes the election for the house and the senate more important than any we have seen in our life time when it comes to the protection of women s rights. governor amy klobuchar, a member of the judiciary committee, in the great state of minnesota, senator, thank you for your time this evening. i know we talked to you on short
democrat of minnesota, joins us now, sitting on the judiciary committee, and senator, thank you for being here with us tonight. let me get your reaction to this news, again, the headline tonight in politico, supreme court has voted to overturn abortion rights, draft opinion shows. everyone s giving you the disclaimers, rachel, and we don t know what the final opinion will be. but i will say that i have predicted this for a long time. based on the court. i mean based on the hearings for these justices. i asked amy coney barrett if she thought roe v. wade was super precedent. she did not think that it was. and yet i believe, the american people are with us. so i d like to focus here, on what is going to happen if they do issue this opinion, when all signs point to that they will. not just this leak, which is unfortunate, but also what they have said in the past. if this is issued, over 20
possibility. hope springs eternal but i guess i disagree with dalia a little bit because she was speculating that chief justice roberts would change his opinion, or vote with the dissenters or something. but the key thing here is that chief justice roberts vote is now irrelevant. it is justice alito plus the four justices to his right, besides chief justice roberts, who you need to flip kavanaugh or gorsuch, or thomas, and that is just, you know, or amy coney barrett, and that is a pretty unlikely thing given the tenor of oral argument. so the process is the case was argued in december, the justices take a tentative vote right after it, and then the senior most justice in the majority assigns the opinion to whomever she or he wants. here it is unlikely roberts was in the majority because he would have probably assigned the draft opinion to himself so it is likely that alito or thomas was one of those two, and alito is
medment to doing that. jamie raskin, a constitutional scholar, congressman, thank you very much for being here, i know we had to change gears quickly and i appreciate you reading it and joining us in such short notice. thank you. i will take a rain check on january 6th. we ll have you back. and it is nice to see you tonight. thanks for being here. thank you. we have been absorbing this developing news, as it has happened, we only had this information for about an hour now and let me ask if anything that you heard us discussing seems wrong to you or if you think we missed anything important in terms of implications here both obviously stunning for court watchers and those thinking about structure of government to have a draft opinion like this leaked out of united states supreme court, and then there is also the subsequence of what this opinion shows as congressman raskin was explaining which appears to be opening the door for abortions