pentagon correspondent at the new york times, aline cooper. let s talk about what you ve learned this year about the nature of warfare in 2020 and 2023. the first thing i learned is the importance of physical courage. the fact that he had the guts to stay there. when he came out of the bunker in the video clip we showed, there he was in his fatigues with his buddies around him. he said, we are here, we are not moving. that was a powerful statement, a personal courage. the second thing i learned was the importance of technology. the technology the united states has provided to ukraine s extraordinary. we have the ability to use the most modern tools of a. i., other ways of precisely locating where the enemy is, and then putting fires from himars, from artillery pieces, everything the u.s. can provide with what it said is allowable, it s targeted very precisely. when you read that building
covering the beat. it s very much a place that looks like america, but that means it does tend to skew a little bit more to the right because while you have a lot of black and latino, latino people you also have a very strong a lot of people coming from the american south and west. aline cooper, a great reporter on this beat, thanks for making time tonight. i appreciate it. that is all in on this thursday night. the rachel maddow show starts right now. thank you, chris. thank you for joining me at this hour. we have thrown out the show, as we sometimes have to do, because we need to start tonight with some news that has just broken on the front page of the new york times. this is a big deal. i will tell you, we re about to speak with one of the reporters whose by lined on this story. we re also about to speak with one of the subjects of this story. but in all the time i have been in this business, i have never covered anything quite like this
reporting, the way it s described, there s no evidence that congressman schiff or any other members, democratic members of the house intelligence committee or any of their staff or indeed their children were actually involved in mishandling classified information or any other leaks. there s no indication in your reporting that there was any wrongdoing on their part that might have at least retroactively justified this kind of unprecedented step. reporter: look, we have no idea what the justice department was basing this on. we have no idea what type of evidence there was to get them to this point. issuing a subpoena for a member of congress is supposed to be treated as something that has to clear a high bar because of the fact that it s another branch of government and a very invasive thing and it can be seen as a political action, given the give and take that was going on at the time.
seen within the justice department as politically motivated, as he used subpoena power to secretly obtain communications records for members of congress, including members of the intelligence question, who are allowed to see the most secret information that the u.s. government possesses. joining us now is new york times reporter michael schmidt. he is one of four reporters by lined on this breaking story. i should also note that mr. schmidt is one of the times reporters who recently learned that his own records were also secretly seized by the trump administration in a separate leak investigation. michael schmidt, thank you very much for joining us. i know it s really short notice. thanks for having me. let me ask you, you ve heard me sum up your reporting, essentially just by reading excerpts from it here. let me ask you to sum it up in your own terms and tell us what is, as far as we can tell, unprecedented, what is important about this. i think that the most
0 covering the beat. it s very much a place that looks like america, but that means it does tend to skew a little bit more to the right because while you have a lot of black and latino, latino people you also have a very strong a lot of people coming from the american south and west. aline cooper, a great reporter on this beat, thanks for making time tonight. i appreciate it. that is all in on this thursday night. the rachel maddow show starts right now. thank you, chris. thank you for joining me at this hour. we have thrown out the show, as we sometimes have to do, because we need to start tonight with some news that has just broken on the front page of the new york times. this is a big deal. i will tell you, we re about to speak with one of the reporters whose by lined on this story. we re also about to speak with one of the subjects of this story. but in all the time i have been in this business, i have never covered anything quite like this before. i have never read a