and wrote he truly can t wait to ignore trump most nights because he hates him passionately. joining me now is brian stelter, author of two books about the relationship between fox and trump. hoax and network of lies, we just got this november. he is also a special correspondent for vanity fair. i am thrilled to have you here. thank you for having me here. thank you for being here. first of all, talk to me about tucker carlson. that present relationship. is it just transactional? why do you think he chose packard to troll the rnc? number one, tucker thinks he is better and smarter and savvier than trump. a spotter strategist, a bitter politician. when those texts came out earlier this year, trump called him up. he was wounded, kurt, wanted an explanation. but tucker is nothing if not ruthless. he understands that by aligning with trump, now especially that tucker was fired from fox, he understands along it with trump s beneficial. it will get him attention, and i think ultimately
first of all, talk to me about tucker carlson. that present relationship. is it just transactional? why do you think he chose packard to troll the rnc? number one, tucker thinks he is better and smarter and savvier than trump. a spotter strategist, a bitter politician. when those texts came out earlier this year, trump called him up. he was wounded, kurt, wanted an explanation. but tucker is nothing if not ruthless. he understands that by aligning with trump, now especially that tucker was fired from fox, he understands along it with trump s beneficial. it will get him attention, and i think ultimately this is what this is about for both men. attention. kind of program. and tucker wants to counter program fox, stick it to his former employer, which by the way is challenging him legally, threatening him, for being over on twitter or x or whatever it s called. so they did tape this interview last week in bedminster. it is in the can. they could post it right now if they want to. they r
because he hates him passionately. joining me now is brian stelter, author of two books about the relationship between fox and trump hoax, and the network of lies out this summer. first of all, tucker carlson, talk to me about that bizarre relationship, and is it just transactional? why do you think he chose tucker to troll the rnc? well, number one tucker thinks he s better and smarter and savvier than trump. so when the texts came out earlier this year trump was wounded, he was hurt. trump wanted an explanation, but tucker is nothing if not ruthlessly calculating. he understands by aligning with trump especially now having been fired from fox, he understands aligning with trump is going to be beneficial. it s going to get him attention. i think ultimately that s what it s about for both men.
started. by the way, that is not just destroying the democracy internally. that is also donald trump has always had two names. what was domestic, the other was to take america out at the realm of democratic internationalism and aligning with that that will happen as well. we ll, if that happens, ruth ben-ghiat, we will continue our conversations. we will join you from canada. good to see you. still to come, the de facto leader of the house republicans weighs on the whole thing. it is absolutely [bleep], yeah, that is my reaction. this is the only way that the democrats have to be president trump s to arrest him, smear him, charge him with ridiculous charges. why the republican party will ever quit donald trump and what it means for 2024? that is next. that is next it s a little pill with a big story to tell. i take once-daily jardiance,