any peace deal that were on the table will come off the table. but the russians have never been particularly serious about any sort of peace deal with the ukrainians. it s not just about ukraine not joining nato. they seem to want some land here as well. but ukrainians are fighting hard and saying they are not willing to give up any land in their country. even zelenskyy mentioned that again today that they re not willing to give up any of the donbass region in that fight. so this looks like this war is now going to enter a much more lethal phase. all right. ali, thank you for that report. joining me now is congressman jim clyburn, democrat of south carolina and house majority. congressman, thank you for joining us tonight, especially on easter sunday. but i want to get first to get
watching our domestic politics impeded by process in fighting among democrats and obstruction by republicans. and i m thinking of black people like patrick who continued to needlessly die in police shootings. too many of our leaders continue to channel for votes because it works, and the leading division make it impossible to address our growing dysfunction. as democrats try to salvage the agenda with less than seven months lfr elections, i ll talk to the highest ranking man in congress about where, what, and when his party can deliver before november. that s coming up. but we start tonight in ukraine. let s get to nbc s foreign correspondent ali aruzy who