Are buying in order to figure out what each cost and also i would note that on the songwriter side, Songwriters Guild featured Music Coalition that have brought up issues of transparency because arbitration might lead to issues where the artists themselves dont necessarily know what the rate is or how it was decided. I think my time is up mr. Chairman. Thank you. Senator franken. Thank you mr. Chairman for this hearing. Mr. Harris and you talked about this 150,000dollar fine that could be imposed for infringing. Have you ever paid such a fine . No sir. How many times has that fine in your experience your knowledge been imposed . Well in the context of pandora. Just in the whole ego system of this . Oh hundreds if not thousands of Copyright Infringement cases going on right now. Farah williams is involved with a lawsuit over marvin gayes estate of her blurred lines were statutory damages and willful infringement are being sought by the plaintiffs. I go back to the question, how many tim