think they want to end up sending him to be in the most powerful position in the world? yeah, i think there is a huge curiosity factor. apparently, alex, i will stay away from the red dresses coming up now t sort of the idea. let s see what he is about. it is very interesting, you can t put him in a box. we know he is not a conservative. he s not a democrat. not an independent. people are trying to figure out what he is that is interesting. he says provocative things. he pushes other candidates into taking other positions. so it is part of a show. but that said, you know, a quarter of the people are intrigued and willing to give him a vote. i think the people could go to other candidates eventually. they will find other people to date to continue that analogy. but the other candidates do have to woo them to some degree in the coming months. all right, amanda carpenter, jeffrey lord, alex castillanos. more on the cnn poll just mentioned how donald trump stacks up against hillary cli
gerald ford said that as a matter of fact. that was in 1980, march 1980 when reagan was well on his way to winning the republican nomination. we have sort of been down this road before where people try to scare people away. he ties much of a strongman, whatever alex s description of him was there. i just don t think the american people are buying it. you have to look at the size of the audiences that he is getting right now. as compared to jeb bush s audience. the republicans the democrats and independents have not. that s the question for trump. can he grow? he has grown in the republican party. to his credit. it was just an angry mob that wanted to burn down washington. now a lot of republicans are in fact beginning to like him. amanda, do you believe he can grow among democrats? among independents? sure. he has the potential. i think those are great observations from alex and ifferiffer iffer and jeffrey.
here s what s going on. i don t pay attention to what trump says. how the other candidates react to trump. in the republican primary there is going to be a consensus moderate conservative, and conservative candidate. that will be the battle. nobody has claimed the mantel. donald trump is claiming a quarter right now. that s because the other guys i don t think they really defined themselves to voters yet. you played the clip of jeb bush reacting to donald trump. why isn t he pushing his 4% growth plan? why isn t he establishing himself as the a candidate on the specific issue? because that s all that is going to get played. i think you are getting sucked into the battle. walker earlier. now trump is more electable according to your new poll. alex, when the field has kind of narrowed down somewhat, does that give one or two candidates, does trump have a lot more
or conservative. he told us what he was about tonight. give him power. give him the power to fix things. he is fine with more power in washington as long as the losers aren t running it, he is. what does that mean? give him the flexibility. don t worry about the plan details. give him the power to deport 11 million people. give him the power to deport kids, children, who are american citizens and take their, their citizenship away. so, donald trump is about more power for donald trump. this is how a nation turns to a political strong man when it thinks things are falling apart. so it is wonderful art, but also very scary. jeffrey, what about that? to alex s point. that is really a message not quite as extreme that we heard, not, not as extreme from jeb bush tonight that donald trump really is not a true conservative? you know, i used to hear that ronald reagan was too extreme to ever be elected president.
don t have to guess where he stands because he is consistent. because he has been governor he consistently views, has the views he has. joining us alex castillanos, jeffrey lord, and with us tonight as well, amanda carpenter. alex, the fact that trump is within six points of hillary clinton. this is an entirely new position for him? yep. it is. he has grown. he was just an anti-washington vote. stick your finger in washington s eye. that has evolved into a, hey, we kind of like this guy. a pro-trump vote too. we saw why in the townhall. masterful political performance art. this one of the world s great political salesman who understands the nuances of politics. underneath it we saw some one who is really not a republican