mr. chris. i think the debate is a bit confusing. it s not so much whether the individual accused has a constitutional status as an american citizen, but the courts will look at these trials in terms of due process and they will make a judgment as to whether or not it meets some minimum standards expected of an american court. is that correct? that is essentially exactly what i was saying. and i think that is correct. and when you look at the listry of military commissions, the world war ii is not exactly the show case you would like to use. those trials were conducted in a matter of days and they passed scrutiny but i think when we look back in time it s not something we would want to repeat. is that your opinion? i mean, i think i guess i essentially agree with what you just said. and i think justice scleia has ruffered to the karen case as not the court s finest hour. so i think there s some question whether you could apply those straight on given recent decisions in