people to continue to donate because that ripples. campaigns, ali, they re like family. you have campaign organizers that are getting paid quite little amount of money to be living in states where they re not actively from and you re asking people to continue to back a candidacy and it comes to a certain point she hasn t been on the air waiwaves for sel months now and it became clear for kamala harris that the chance of mounting a comeback here, a significant comeback, was becoming that much more difficult. vaughn hilliard, thank you, joining us from montgomery, alabama. c this means that as of right now the debate stage will be made up entirely of white contenders. nbc senior politics editor and amy allison, the founder of she the people, a national network that seeks to engage more women of color in our election joins me now. seeks to and seems to, that s good. we actually do.