because he was not with him through the campaign and he does not know every associate of donald trump s. and it is interesting that giuliani would say that it is his belief that don mcgahn would be a strong witness for the president. fred, fred, i have to say that during the watergate period, the white house, and this is the richard nixon white house made the same claim, because what is the al tern tte? you can t have giuliani going forward to say, we are worried, even if they are, they can t say it publicly. but i guess worry sounds like that is the sentiment, jamil that is coming from the president when he tweets a reference to the nixon administration attorney john dean and calling him a rat almost says that, you know, maybe a warning to don mcgahn that, you know, you should only say but so much. what do you interpret from that coming from the president today? well, fredricka, it is hard