and now they have to go back to this but unlike the u.s., which has global interest, israel has a very simple interest. keep that border quiet. keep the sinai from becoming an al qaeda haven. whoever does that from israel s perspective is fine. jeffrey goldberg, thank you very much, as always. thank you. bad weather now causing trouble around the world today. in china, fast-moving floods going through the sachwan province. wow, look at that. state media reports that more than 40 people have been killed since the heavy rain began monday night. the most active volcano continues to erupt spreading a cloud of volcano and ash two miles high. it s left a layer of ash covering the city. tropical storm chantal is barrelling towards the dominican republic and haiti. evacuations have been ordered. they expect the storm to weaken as it heads towards florida later this week.
it s much more difficult to defend all of these facilities. nick burns, more broadly, what about the fact that libya falls and ghadafi is gone, and that is generally seen by the u.s. and its allies as a good thing, but the bad guys then move on to algeria, they move on to mali, first, then algeria. you saw what happened and the deaths of americans and other contractors and employees just this past week. so, north africa is a new al qaeda haven, or al qaeda elements. it is. here, andrea, i think this crisis that we experienced on september 11th and 12th in benghazi, here s where it s evolved, and secretary clinton mentioned this at the hearing this morning, we have a crisis in north africa, the vast expanse thousands of miles across the sahara desert from niger to mali, algeria and morocco, you have radical islamist elements that have
at the end of the day, the only way to win a war is with troops on the ground. what do we do about that? do we arm the rebels without really knowing who they are? this is a question this administration will have to wrestle with and come up with an answer fairly quickly. we have been throwing around the word war. al hunt, are we at war with libya. i wouldn t call it a car okay, everybody on this set has said war. i said yet. if obama gets lucky and something happens, they do something to gadhafi, then i think we re not at war. i think what happens later matters. if it s an al qaeda haven, it really martes. if it s just messy, politically it won t matter. this is no way to conduct a foreign policy. wouldn t you argue there have been really clear and consistent measures taken? to engage in libya here with
karzai government. i am getting what you are hearing. corrupt services aren t reaching the people where they need it to be. that is a big problem. not a perfect analogy, to the maliki government. a lot of that was true in 2007. once you saw the security environment change that government moved and changed with it. i think the same could happen in afghanistan. if we are able to beat back the taliban and deny al qaeda haven. you will see governors in the provinces switch allegiances and calculations back, back towards the karzai government. i think you would force the karzai government to really try to represent more and all of the people. it is not going to fix the problem. you can t expect, always expect the political environment to move the security environment. the security environment is the necessary precondition for political progress. that s why it is so important what we are doing on the ground, soldiers, marines, south, and
firsthand interaction with the karzai government. i am getting what you are hearing. corrupt services aren t reaching the people where they need it to be. that is a big problem. not a perfect analogy, to the maliki government. a lot of that was true in 2007. once you saw the security environment change that government moved and changed with it. i think the same could happen in afghanistan. if we are able to beat back the taliban and deny al qaeda haven. you will see governors in the provinces switch allegiances and calculations back, back towards the karzai government. i think you would force the karzai government to really try to represent more and all of the people. it is not going to fix the problem. you can t expect, always expect the political environment to move the security environment. the security environment is the necessary precondition for political progress. that s why it is so important what we are doing on the ground, soldiers, marines, south, and east in afghanistan. yo