remember, were nancy pelosi was with this group of people about a year and it half ago. he s she is being bum-rushed ate lectern. jessica: it s not about politics. harris: why can t we have something that ll actually pass the senate? jessica: because her republicans would never vote for something like this. steve: the republicans did vote for it. the point is that you are never going to get anywhere on this issue, and this is why the people are so frustrated, unless you combine the two parts of it and have real and believable border security. that has to start with building the wall. it was the clearest promise in the 2016 election campaign. everybody heard that promise harris: we can t find out what s in it after we read it. jessica: it s very clear what it is and is a parody of my party to make sure these people are protected. melissa: but how do you go back to them and say, we tried and we failed? we put this thing forward. as we introduce it as no over
steve: by the way, beto o rourke melissa: i need to ask a question on the way out so she s not totally frustrated. do you think there is a solution where both sides can come together that includes a wall that isn t a wall? could it look like criminal justice reform? do you think they would go for that? jessica: i think border security done in different ways obviously conversation prayed but it s a huge sticking point. dagen: i need to say this about criminal justice reform. they did this because they re trying to disavow with bill and hillary clinton did in labeling young black men super predators. that s why they signed on to it. melissa: that was very fiery, i don t know how much more time we have left in the show now. [laughter] we will go to a commercial. a desperate crisis of the border, as you know. coming up harris will talk with one of the people at the center of the issue. acting ice director mark morgan, who was recently nominated by the president. be sure to stic
whether he deserves to go which it seems like he did it seems like she does it for applicable reasons. she was trying to rebrand herself as this feminist after being so close to the clintons for so long. what is your take, jess? jessica: i have my own issues there. this isn t one of them. i think al franken should still be in the senate. out of the 21 female senators, nearly half of them called and him to resign and that effort when they came out and started on social media, it was coordinated down to the minute that it would happen. she was the first one trade 5 minutes later, someone else went. i believe chuck schumer actually was supportive of this, as well. i wish al franken was still in the senate. i like tina smith, too. but i believe he should so have a seat and there should be an investigation paid by the decision to step down was his and his alone. he could have stayed in there and he thought it was better for the party and for himself to do that. harris: that s an exc
bill clinton under the bus and said he should have resigned over the monica lewinsky scanda scandal, sheet harris: please call the clinton scandal. dagen: we talked about that before. over 20 years, the clinton endorsement money was taken. an interesting strategy for 2020 primaries. time and again, that is kirsten gillibrand al franken was her squash partner. she would do anything to highlight her gender, but that s all she s got. guess what? there are other women who do a better job. steve: she s just fake. i think it s really encouraging when you see people the good sense of the american people, when they see someone so transparent leaf egg like her. another one i would put in that category is beto o rourke. people see right through them and i think that s good news. jessica: i think there s something aboard going on, putting aside the interests of the al franken issue, you are finally starting to see them take pot shots at each other. the first few months, everyone was
no, i don t think they will do that. if they do, it s foolish. there is nothing more important than borders. i ve had tremendous republican support. i have a 90% a 94% approval rating, as of this morning, and the republican party. that s an all-time record. harris: meanwhile, house speaker nancy pelosi is set to meet with mexico s foreign minister to talk about trade later today. wow. steve, there is a lot popping off. so, mexico. if you are mexico, what are you thinking? steve: i better have a constructive response to this, because they don t want to see an important trading relationship disrupted. i think that s what you are already seeing. this tough response, called outrage amongst the traditional establishment types, here goes trump again with something we ve never seen before. conflating, as they call it, two issues. the treat issue with the immigration issue. actually, the mexican response was very conciliatory right of the outset. coming in to negotiate.