of us whether or not the russians may have something on him. laura: kim, i ve got to go to you. the cia, supposed to be nonpolitical, and he s all but saying, he s intimating that he knows of some dirt that the russians might have on trump. your reaction to that? i think but threw out the nonpolitical label on john brennan a long time ago, by the way. just saying. look, there used to be a day when intelligence officials, whether they were in office or out of office, would not spew innuendo like that, especially such grave charges. if john brennan was aware of any evidence like this, he had a duty to say so back when he was in office. and we ve never had any intimation that he did. he s now a year out. so the idea that he is privy to such classified information is almost crazy. but look, here s one of the problems here. he goes on, they said at the opening of that segment, he is nbc s new intelligence analyst. and so he comes on acting as if he has some knowledge of
laura: the personal lawyer for attorney general jeff sessions is pushing back tonight against the startling new report. the lawyer tells fox news that jeff sessions is not under a criminal investigation for perjury, allegedly committed during his confirmation hearing. but abc news reports former fbi official andrew mccabe investigated whether sessions did tell the truth about his contacts with russia. sessions fired mccabe last week for what the fbi called his own lack of candor. let s get into all of this with wall street journal reporter, democratic strategist and scott bolden, and deputy independent counsel in the bill clinton whitewater investigation. great to see all of you. good evening. laura: kim, let s start with you on this. this is wild. so we ve got mccabe, who reportedly was investigating, or wanted to investigate jeff
and he gets fired for the same thing. what s your pulse on this now, given what chuck cooper, sessions lawyer said today? i am absolutely appalled by this. laura, this is to me the most scandalous thing i ve ever talked about on your show. there are three big stories here. there are three big parts of this. first, as kim said, it s highly unusual for something like this to happen. the administration officials from both parties go before congress all the time, they make misstatements, they re accused by the other side of perjury, there is almost never an investigation. there wasn t an investigation opened of eric holder when he made false statements about the fast and furious investigation. i don t think he was perjuring himself. there wasn t even an investigation of jim clapper when he said the nsa didn t collect data, and everybody knows he was intentionally lying. so that s the first thing. that s highly unusual. the second thing is, andrew
thing. what s your pulse on this now, given what chuck cooper, sessions lawyer said today? i am absolutely appalled by this. laura, this is to me the most scandalous thing i ve ever talked about on your show. there are three big stories here. there are three big parts of this. first, as kim said, it s highly unusual for something like this to happen. the administration officials from both parties go before congress all the time, they make misstatements, they re accused by the other side of perjury, there is almost never an investigation. there wasn t an investigation opened of eric holder when he made false statements about the fast and furious investigation. i don t think he was perjuring himself. there wasn t even an investigation of jim clapper when he said the nsa didn t collect data, and everybody knows he was intentionally lying. so that s the first thing. that s highly unusual. the second thing is, andrew
future generations. it s great to have you both on. fantastic segment. it s complicated. so we really appreciate it. coming up, what a fired fbi official may have done to try to bring down a member of trump s cabinet? yes. kim, wall street journal, here to liberty mutual stood with me when i was too busy with the kids to get a repair estimate. i just snapped a photo and got an estimate in 24 hours. my insurance company definitely doesn t have that. you can leave worry behind when liberty stands with you™ liberty mutual insurance. we know that when you re spending time with the grandkids every minute counts. and you don t have time for a cracked windshield. that s why we show you exactly when we ll be there. saving you time, so you can keep saving the world. kids: safelite repair, safelite replace