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companies in america. almost every single one have said we have to deal with this. and overseas, i can t think of any businessman that is not committed. but look, if you have an administration that is supportive, it is likely this will get double that. quicker. as a former airline owner, this united and this treatment of customers, obviously, there was a social media back lash and all this. it does seem as if, is it that hard to run an airline anymore and make a profit in this day and age? can you do it? is that why, is it the fear of not being able to make money in an airline the worst customer service? i think a lot of airlines are just very, very badly run. we set up three airlines. virgin america, virgin australia and virgin atlantic.
have been so much worse not just mr. ford but anybody else in that area. jeff i appreciate you taking the time to talk to us. thank you very much. joining us also on the phone is tom haynes who has flown with harrison ford. he s editor in chief of the airline owner and pilots association monthly magazine pilot. tom, thanks for being with us. as i said you have flown with harrison ford. what kind of a pilot is he? harrison is a very meticulous pilot. i have flown with him in his helicopter. the day i flow with him, he did the most thorough preflight i ve seen anybody do ever on a helicopter and i know he routinely goes for recurrent training on a frequent schedule. and has a high profile and we know he s very careful about that. and does all the right things. he began he got his license in 1996 flying mostly out of wyoming and tooedederboro i