seconds. you have to prove to be airline certified. we have seen the plane completely burned but everybody got off and survived again here tremendously wonderful. you know, they call it a miracle, but it s not. it s science and it s great improvement and construction of aircraft the last two decades. there was also a mention there by will ripley about concerns regarding air traffic controllers. this is something obviously in the u.s. there s serious worry about because of the shortages, et cetera. can you talk about how and why that might come into focus. yes. i was also very fortunate when i was inspector general i actually got to work in japan and go up in several of the japanese towers when i was inspector general. and they approached the air traffic control just as will said, very, very seriously. they have relief rooms, sleep rooms. they re very conscientious about taking their breaks. eating and sleep rooms are right in the tower.