that it is the work schedules they use at f.a.a. in air traffic control facilities that are absolutely fatigue inducing. but they are not new. i mean as gabe said just a minute ago, this has been going on for a very, very long time. and the research on what fatigue, you know appreciation deuce or what the fatigue producers are is not new but the f.a.a. has only recently acknowledged that. but as far as the money goes, you know, i think if you do the research you will find that there are some that make $170,000, but not most of them. geraldo: let me ask gabe. as they say, gabe, that flying commercially it is safer than riding an escalator. if that is true, are we making a mountain out of a moehill here? it is easy to make the statement statistically that flying is a very safe form of transportation. but just because we didn t have an a accident today or the day before doesn t mean that the
what i found in the research is that it is the work schedules they use at f.a.a. in air traffic control facilities that are absolutely fatigue inducing. but they are not new. i mean as gabe said just a minute ago, this has been going on for a very, very long time. and the research on what fatigue, you know appreciation deuce or what the fatigue producers are is not new but the f.a.a. has only recently acknowledged that. but as far as the money goes, you know, i think if you do the research you will find that there are some that make $170,000, but not most of them. geraldo: let me ask gabe. as they say, gabe, that flying commercially it is safer than riding an escalator. if that is true, are we making a mountain out of a moehill here? it is easy to make the statement statistically that flying is a very safe form of transportation. but just because we didn t have an a accident today or the day before doesn t mean that the
faa they re wondering do they have a systemic problem they have to deal with. at the heart of the controversy over air traffic controllers, falling asleep on the job, the schedules they work. many controllers report working an eight-hour shift, then off eight, then right back to work for another eight. captain john cox, an airline safety expert, says that can lead to exhaustion. and it is time for a total review of controller scheduling. how to develop a fatigue mitigation program and to not have these very quick turns with minimal rest so we end up having fatigued professionals in our air traffic control facilities. reporter: the faa is still investigating cases of controllers allegedly sleeping on the job in washington, knoxville, lubbock, washington state, and reno, nevada. where a medevac plane with a patient on board landed on its own while the controller slept. on thuday, the man who ran the faa s air traffic control operations, hank krakowski, lost
you. you know, the ntsb for years has been warning the faa about fatigued controllers. now at the highest levels of the faa, they re woefrnding if they have a systemic problem. at the heart of the controversy over air traffic controllers falling asleep on the job, the schedules they work. many controllers report working an eight-hour shift, then off eight, then right back for another eight. captain john cox, an airline safety expert says that can lead to exhaustion. it s time for a total review of controller scheduling. how to develop a fatigue-mitigation program and to not have these very quick turns with minimal rest so that we end up having fatigued professionals in our air traffic control facilities. reporter: the faa is still investigating cases of controllers allegedly sleeping on the job in washington, knoxville, lubbock, washington state and reno, nevada, where a medevac plane with a patient on board landed on its own while
figure out why they are making so many dangerous errors. there have been a half dozen incidents where airlines came close to crashing with other planes. in some cases pilots made last second changes in direction when cockpit alarms went off. joining me no is mary xeef vo. what s the problem out there? in the washington, d.c. area, there s a lot of focus between the air traffic control facilities, reagan national airport and dulles airport. they have been directing traffic into each other s areas and there s a real issue as to why they are making those mistakes. those are controller errors and they are saying part of the problem is they have to train so many new controllers because the controllers hired after the controller strike have now retired are or retiring.