remarkable, terrifying story. nicolle, i had the same reaction when our affiliate in san diego came to me they had obtained this document with 59 names including attorneys, journalists and aide workers who simply are doing their jobs on the other side of the border in mexico with immigrants, they had this list at the board perder p in san diego put together and compiled not just people to stop but information on these people, information they gleaned through interviews. i was able to run that down here with our sources at dhs to figure out what does this mean? the first thing i was told by a spokesperson was that this is normal. this is them trying to figure out what happened in november during the caravan violence. you can remember the tear gas, rocks thrown, they were simply looking into that, that these people had been there in that instance. but the more we dug, nicolle, the more that didn t seem to be the case. a lot of these people were nowhere near that incident and these peop
breaking point that happened when we heard children crying because they were separated from their parents. when their parents had risked everything in their lives to bring them to this country. and so my look at that report, which i did yesterday and hi the exact same reaction, i don t think it s just the basic sort of oh, we re skeptical of aide workers talking about asylum. i think it s much more nefarious than that. this is the question of one of the things there will be a nuremberg-type trials about what happened on our watch. so there are photographers who are going down there and they re trying to question next and take away their cameras, that s what this is about. it s not about asylum rules. michael steele, we talk about trump s autocratic tendencies in theoretical ways but this is the conduct of an autocrat. yeah, this is the example of the exercising of that authority downward, putting downward pressure on administrationive arms and operations to carry out
well, with all due respect, these people have made this their lives work to help asylum seekers. many of these, and i m discountsing journalists who are just doing their jobs and telling us the story of what s going on. but these aide workers are down there, they re not coaching them to lie or to say they re just explaining what the process is. frankly, cbd ought to be glad of that. that way you have people understanding what could happen when they get to the border, that in fact they could be put into some kind of detention with or without their children. so i think it s misplaced paranoia that somehow the aide workers are in mexico facilitating criminals. as general kelly, this is a really important point to make. listen, general kelly worked for president trump a lot longer than 49 days. he was chief of staff for months and months and months.
so i m concerned about the this on the potential trial. thank you. always good to see you. i want to thank you there because i want to get to venezuela for some breaking news. thank you. humanitarian crisis continuing. let s get to nick to see what s going on. reporter: yes, there are some more rounds being fired by them now. so about ten minutes ago, a large number of aide workers moved down this bridge in large numbers. and then on the edge of the lawn of riot police they ghana scuffle somebody pulling out a shield and that caused everything to snap. we saw quite quickly afterwards tear gas being fired into the crowds. a lot of these unarmed opposition protesters rushing back at a great hurry away from that scene there. and they continue to fire tear
they say here you have the bridge. but even during those clashes back there, when we were speaking to you earlier on, dana, we saw another police officer from the venezuelan side hand himself over to the columbia forces. he was met with furry from those venezuelan government protesters. but let me set the scene a little more widely for you. this was supposed to be a day of unity, getting humanitarian aide into a country from which 3.1 million people have fled because of human tar yar issues. and sad what happened, if you put aide workers moving towards the police to keep subsidized food packages coming to their family inside venezuela, we have the clashes returning here. perhaps a little less violent than an hour ago, but many injured and a scene really which will make possibly nicolas maduro feel comfortable that the