conversations about zelensky wants to have a white house visit, and trump yeah, but usually it s like he wants to go at a state dinner or he wants full or partial lunch or dinner. it s not like dig up dirt on biden. it s usually incremental things, we need you to show a little more leg on this or that. in this case it s about basically violating the constitution and violating law. and then we ll have the conversation with you. i mean, if this goes back to something ben was talking about earlier. ukraine, it s tragic because it s blood pressure a hbeen a h bed of corruption and all of the reporting shows that when you have these prosecutors the way they operated was i m going to prosecute you, but if you give me a bunch of dough i m not going to do it. and again as ben knows from the beginning we are over there in ukraine saying you ve got to end this prosecution because our goal was ukraine as a free and democratic country in the heart of europe.