humanity away from us. make sure that no one lacks a home, a bond, a person to take care of him or her, and heal the selfishness of those who close themselves off from life. joining us now, the host of the catholic channel on sirius xm, katie mcgrady. this sounded to some people as if the pope was saying, you know, what is coming out as anti-pet. what exactly was going on here? well, i mean, i think it is important to know that pope francis is not saying you re not allowed to have a dog or a cat. pets are great. i have two kids and a dog and our home is perfectly good. what i think he was trying to challenge us to contemplate is are we prioritizing domestic pets over inviting children into our home, whether biologically, by way of adoption, he also mentioned spiritual motherhood, spiritual fatherhood. pope francis speaks every wednesday, he gives a general audience, he gives some
responsible parenthood. he s talking about really discerning motherhood and fatherhood. and, look, pope francis has spoken about this very issue and very similar terms before. this isn t the first time. and it is an issue around the world in many countries, in many societies, where people are having fewer children or doing it later. there is a social and societal impact. yeah. i mean, kids are kids are part of the way that our world, our society continues. and really discerning the number of children i have, obviously that is something my husband and i would discuss together, but also thinking big picture. and i think pope francis ultimately, he s not saying don t have animals. he s not saying you should have more children than you have pets. he s saying we need to discern the way that we participate in society and motherhood and fatherhood is a good. it is an objective good. the pope is talking to catholics, calling us to holiness. parenthood is a path to holiness, even though i
catechisis. pope john paul taught theology of the body. pope benedict xvi talked about the church fathers and saints. and pope francis has been talking about saint joseph. so context here is really important. he didn t just say don t have animals. he was talking about a much larger picture here. and i wonder how the catholic faithful are responding to this. you know, it is interesting. on different parts of social media, you see some people saying, yeah, go pope francis, we should have more babies and some people saying, my gosh, i can t believe he s criticizing me. everybody is going to sound bite what they want to sound bite. everybody is going to take what they want to take. i think reading the entire thing that he said is most important. and that will really give people clarification and maybe help people be a little less offended. remember, a few years ago, pope francis said don t breed like rabbits and people got upset about that as well. i think he s talking about
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