out for our interests without political gainsmanship trickery, cheating, criminalitya ,where does that leave us as a country today? y i set aside trump i mean, if you can from just on that. well, i think that s whys this is so important is when you have the right people in and you know, folks are willing to declassify the information to hold agencies accountable, the people can have that trust. unfortunately, what you have is a lot bureaucrats that protect the institutions like the cia and the fbi for the sake of protecting them even when they don t stand up for t the values that they re supposed to represent instead of when they when they do fall and when they do falter, coming out clean and being honest with the american people. and that s what we should do. that s what it i didat s and ths what good leadership demands. and we don t t have that right now and we didn t have it in 2016. john, thank you for declassifying what you did and we really appreciate your insights tonight .
to look out for our interests without political gainsmanship, trickery, cheating, criminality, where does that leave us as a country today? set aside trump, if you can for a moment. just on that? well, i think that s why this is so important, is when you have the right people in and folks are willing to declassify the information to hold agencies accountable, the people can have that trust. unfortunately, what you have, there are a lot of bureaucrats that protect the cia and fbi for the sake of protecting them even when they don t stand up for the values they are supposed to represent, instead of when they do fall and falter, coming out clean and being honest with the american people. that s what we should do. that s what i did. that s what good leadership demands. we don t have that right now. we didn t have it in 2016. laura: john, thank you for declassifying what you did. we really appreciate your insights tonight. thank you.
actually that may not be right, but they were forced to buy them, and instead of using those, they bought c-130s to replace. which part might not be right, the fact that they were foreign made. that might not be right. i think they are but i can t remember. bigger picture here, who do you blame the most for this? is it the federal agencies, the you know, whether it s the air force or the department of energy? no. or is it congress? no, it s congress. congress want to do the hard work of overseeing these agencies, of doing the hearings that are required to get the information, to holding the agencies accountable so that they are fearful that if they continue to make really stupid decisions that there might be a consequence. you know, accountability is key in any type of management structure, and when the members of congress won t exercise that constitutional duty of holding the agencies accountable, you re
were used to kill the brother of a state attorney general in mexico and a supervisor wanted want to bury the revelation. if we are going to make the agencies accountable, the people that are responsible for the wrongdoing are responsible for policies that lead to murder, although they did not do the murder, heads have to roll. reporter: the department of justice claims that the report distorts the facts and repeats debunked conspiracy theories. the next report that the committee issues will deal with department and obstruction of justice. shepard: thank you, william, from los angeles. pushing teen athletes to the point of collapse. high school coaches have been doing it for years. now, two families say that the pushing killed their children. this are lawsuits. that is next.
among the findings, officials ignored warnings from other agencies that the operation was going too far. the atf lied to gun dealers reassuring them that agents were intercepting any weapons they sold. and an atf supervisor hide the news that somebody used fast and furious news from state attorney general in mexico. this is most likely important for the blame that it lays on five people at atf. william la jeunesse is live at our west coast news hub. william, if you would, tell us about those five. shepard be the report is based on some 7,000 subpoenaed documents, basically accuses then atf director ken melson of being aloof. assistant. bill mcmahon of giving false testimony to congress. mark chait failure to supervise and bill newell of incompetence. if heads don t roll, nothing changes. in other words, if we are going to make these agencies accountable, the people that are responsible for the