Host joining us now is the jonathan shea, the author of audacity. Thank you for joining us. I love the book, a fascinating look back at the Obama Presidency. I was struck by the way it begins. It begins with a chapter on what you call americas final sin. Why is that . Because when people look back on obama 100 or 200 years from now when his presidency, the first thing theyll learned that he was the first africanamerican president or the first non white male president. That was not just a historical footnote and this is in just a breakthrough, but its something that defined in the public mind something he had to grapple with and i try to make an argument in the book that its not just something that happened to him, it was something that he helped shape and create a narrative of race in america that help bring america forward. So it was hardly incidental. It drove opposition for him in a huge way. Race was just central, the perceptions of obama and everything he did from healthcare on wo