times, but i just don t know to do anything but left. thanks for watching. we ll be right back here next sunday at 8 pm eastern, you can now find the show on the msnbc hub on peacock. new episodes of the mehdi hasan show posted during the week on peacock. now, it s time to handed over to my friend richard louis, good evening, medina i do richard. awe know you love your children, great to see you mary, thanks so much. coming up a name, in the trump grand jury in manhattan is expected to reconvene this week. i will be joined by democratic congressman eric swalwell in just a moment. plus, exclusive nbc reporting on rhonda sentences presidential oscillations and why should republican donors are afraid to lead their support as of today? and we will head to mississippi to get an update on recovery efforts after deadly storm there and what president biden is doing to help the region. let s get started. another week has come and gone since wait to see if an indictment will actu
week. i ll be joined by eric swalwell in just a moment. plus, exclusive nbc reporting on rhonda santa s presidential aspirations, and why republican donors are afraid to lend their support as of today. and will head to mississippi to get an update on recovery after some of the deadly storms there and what president biden is doing to help the region. let s get started. another week has come and gone since donald trump claimed that he would be arrested and we re still waiting to see whether an indictment will actually come down in new york city. but in that time, trump has gotten from making predictions to launching some dangerous attacks. manhattan district attorney alvin bragg has been receiving death threats over his investigation into donald trump s alleged role in the 2016 hush money payment made to adult film star stormy daniels. now those threats came on the heels of a series of social media posts from trump, including one warning of, quote, death and destruction. i fear
they are all serious though. the more serious ones, of course, involved in january 6th and donald trump and fighting the mob and aiming the mob at the capitol, and then of course, trying to put pressure on election officials in different states. and then obstructing the effort to investigate that. and then the sense of top secret document and striking the effort to those are the most serious, in my experience as a former prosecutor, it will take time to put those together. prosecutor knows that you almost have to be bulletproof. that is not the legal standard, proof beyond reasonable doubt is the standard, but donald trump is going to put an absolute pressure campaign, a public pressure campaign on any of these charges and so you are going to have to make sure that you can really knock out any element of each crime in front of the jury. but again richard, at the end of the day, we can t control what donald trump says. he is going to be hearing more violence. but as leaders, we cannot
ukraine was a misstep, comments that, and this is gonna be very problematic for donors if this continues. so has a long way to go before he can prove that he can run a 50 state campaign and take this away from donald trump. and his poll numbers are sinking. well, michael, go back to that possibility. is it 24 or 28, and in either case, is this more about trump not being strong? if it s 28, that means that trump wins in this coming election, and is not strong enough to win in 28. or isn t just not gonna win in 24. yeah, look, i think whether or not trump wins in 24 or not, richard, i think 28 gives ron desantis a better possibility for the republican party to move on from donald trump. for two reasons. if trump wins, his base will be happy. the republican base will be happy. if he loses, the base will be able to say you know, we give
that desantis with some early state strength in yes, iowa and new hampshire. and in fact in iowa, desantis is up by eight points. and head to head, even 39-39 in new hampshire. what do you make of that michael? look, richard, i think some of those polls are pretty obvious at this point. i say that for this particular reason. ron desantis is a number two guy. he will have to go out after donald trump. in some of the capacity you see his poll numbers increase. you are also going to have to potentially be several other attacking him versus trump. because they want to see their poll numbers rise. and now you have a guy who not only has to go against the number one, but you have to go against several other individuals who want to be the number one guy. and whether or not ron desantis has what it takes to fight off all those individuals in the republican primary remains unseen. so when i look at some