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the scene there to disperse demonstrators. in eugene, oregon, a crowd got rowdy. they used pepper spray to break up the crowd and arrested ten people. as of now 13 states have trigger laws banning abortions in light of this ruling and an abortion ban is already in effect in at least six states. let s go to some of the protests. polo sandoval in new york. and let s go to joe johns first outside the supreme court. i know it s been very busy outside the supreme court, joe. what are you seeing right now? reporter: it is, jim. this crowd has just built and built and built throughout the afternoon. let s take a look at the large number of people here in front of the united states supreme court. the speakers expressing everything from anger and shock and fear about the future, of course, the vast majority of the people here are supporters of abortion rights. there were a few people who were opponents of abortion rights, but they got into what you call verbal altercations with some
chaotic. pretty soon we will have half the states that outlaw it and the others that permit and protect it. the thing to watch for those that outlaw it may well try to extend their reach beyond their state borders. you cannot leave this state and cross the state line in order to get an abortion. they may even have laws read in a way even if an actual procedure of an abortion is not being performed in that state, it may be a crime to make a phone call from that state or to make payment from that state to another state. importantly, yesterday the justice department issued a statement where they said in our view that kind of law is unconstitutional. it would violate what we call the commerce law and inhibit theability to cross state lines freely. if we start seeing aggressive laws will doj spring into action? they certainly seem to be signaling they will. and what does the supreme court do with those cases? that s important to watch as
we are now in front of city hall but really they say they will continue to be here because they want their message to be heard and, again, that message is that they stand with other women in other states that do not have the right to an abortion, jim. all right, camilla, thank you very much. thanks to our reporters on the scene of those demonstrations, people definitely making their voices heard. let s go to ellie honig. he joins me now. people are fired up over this and with this now left up to the states, we should note there are state, multiple states with trigger laws that have effectively banned abortion as an end result of what took place at the supreme court yesterday. what happens when a woman in one of those states decides to pursue an abortion elsewhere? that is one of the many questions right now. i suppose a woman could do that. what does the law say? it s going to get quite
practice. the dissent says we shouldn t interfere with any of these existing rights so the question is where does the court go next? watch for this, jim. justice thomas opinion is an invitation to states to pass new laws, for example, outlawing lgbt marriage to leave it up to the supreme court to push it to the next level and challenge it so we ll see if the justices are good for their word, if alito is good for his word? there will be, i believe, states passing laws that are designed and intended to challenge this and that in itself could be difficult and problematic. right, and even though justice alito says, oh, we re just talking about abortion here, we should note some of these justices went in front of the country during their testimony and talked about roe versus wade being established precedent and settled law and so on. obviously we couldn t count on those words holding up when roe versus wade came to their desk. all right, elie honig, thank you very much. joining me is n