midst of greatness. so i was a little nervous about meeting him. and i had an opportunity to see him several other occasion, and he just made me feel more human. congressman john lewis, you were the person i wanted to talk to more than anybody else tonight. thank you so much for being with us, sir. i really appreciate you being here. thank you. thank you. we ve got so much more ahead. please stay with us. lots to come. i went to see the man who organized this stayaway, the 42-year-old african lawyer, nelson mandela, the most dynamic leader in south africa today. the police were hunting for him at the time, but african nationalists had arranged for me to meet him at his hideout. he is still underground. this is mandela s first television interview. i asked him what it was that the