it is afternoon on your side. great to talk to you today. raising the debt ceiling is a matter of debate. what do you mean by clean extension of the debt sealing. don t play depames. we cannot aforward to have america default. we never did it before . the issue of debt ceiling comes up periodically. it shouldn t be a leverage point. the risk of defaulting and miss of reaching the deadline is a disaster for the integritty of the united states government. some are arguing that not arguing the debt ceiling will not lead to a federal default but have to stop more borrowing and force the government to rely on other way to finance the activities. it won t happen. if we don t raise the debt ceiling a lot of bad things