afghanistan is in deep, deep economic, financial, social chaos. they need, the taliban and afghan people, are going to need significant international support. everything from food to economic assets, all those things are on the table. are there some that are more imminent that would lead to an extension of the american presence? i suspect that there are. it doesn t do much good for me or for any of us to try to figure it all out. we do know that it is in the process of being figured out by the american military, by our diplomats and by the intelligence agencies. will it lead to an extension? possibly. will it lead to better access for americans to the base? hopefully. these things are under discussion. right now, the white house is
0 karen greenburg, thanks so much. that does it for this edition. chuck todd is up next with mtp daily only on msnbc. well, don t worry, andrea, you re not going very far. we re coming back to you in a moment. welcome back to mtp daily. a pair of explosions rocked kabul, have tloefr the u.s. evacuation efforts into turmoil, just five days before president biden s agreed to deadline to get americans out. u.s. officials tell nbc news at least three marines were wounded in the attack outside the airport. hospital officials are treating about 60 people injured and at least six killed. pentagon press secretary john kirby tweeted there were two blasts in what he calls a complex attack. one of those explosions at the abbey gate and the other at a hotel. the briefing he was supposed to have was postponed by events on the ground as was the covid task force briefing. the administration says the president has been briefed on the situation. it is our understanding he is in the oval office
there s a compromise there, as well as us, the house of representatives want to reach with the other side of the aisle, but you have to understand border security will include structures and include things like a wall in certain sections, like a fence. sorry to interrupt, but i don t know what like a wall means? let s break it down. how many miles long are we talking? obviously, many people think of the wall as coast-to-coast. that is not going to be the outcome of a compromised position. there are hundreds of miles that are relevant for application of a wall-type of border security measure. where are those? i am sorry to press you like this, but truly on a map, we need the president or you to tell us where are these hundreds of miles? what part is wide open where people are pouring through? actually, if you look the most effective, my understanding of the technology and the wall devices are in the urban areas,
other side, alisyn, when nancy pelosi says no dollar for a wall, is that the partisan gridlock we are facing in washington that we are going to stop by taking this action today and being a voice saying enough is enough, and let s agree, whoever goes first, just go and lead and that s what we are trying to do. congressman, it s only the president saying the wall. you are not even saying wall. you are saying technology, aerial support. should the president stop using the term wall? i have seen the president use the term border wall, and border security, and nancy pelosi says not a dollar for a wall, and this is such a silly and asinine debate, and we need to get past it, and boarder security will include a wall, and at the end of the day who loses is the american people. we need to secure the border and need to make america safe but we need a functioning border safe
things like san diego, areas of high population centers where you direct the entry into america where ports of entry you can control and supervise, and you build off of their going forward. there are numerous reports showing where it will work. the president has been all over the map. first it was 1,000 miles. he s down to 550. he can t show us on a map you just talked about the places that were successful. yes. so where is the place that warrants the $5 billion? oh, well when you are talking about a $5 billion investment of border security, that s why it s not just about a wall, it s about technology and fencing and about using ground penetration, the surveillance in the air, and this is much bigger than a wall and border security and that s where we are going. that s right. that s right. that s what your fellow republican will herd says, and that s not what the president is saying. he s talking about a concrete wall. you have it right on the