about their experience of what it was like to be investigated by them. for example, we have heard from a woman who has talked about threatening calls from him and who has in fact been at the inquiry today listening to the man who interrogated her. she was not one of the people to be convicted, but she was accused of. forced to pay back a shortfall of thousands of pounds. that had a devastating effect on her life. it s not just been it s notjust been about the horizon it system, it s also been about his behaviour, his behaviour in the investigating team. behaviour, his behaviour in the investigating team. among the sub- postmaster investigating team. among the sub- postmaster is investigating team. among the sub-postmaster is wrongly - investigating team. among the - sub-postmaster is wrongly prosecuted sub postmaster is wrongly prosecuted is hasmur shingadia, his post office was used by the princess of wales when she was growing up nearby and even got an invite to her we
months immediate custody. you have had the catalogue of failures that mr blake put to you. the woman that sits behind me beside me goes to prison for nine months. you have anything say to her? miss matthews was one who anything say to her? miss matthews was one who dealt anything say to her? miss matthews was one who dealt with anything say to her? miss matthews was one who dealt with that. if i anything say to her? miss matthews was one who dealt with that. if mrs | was one who dealt with that. if mrs skinner has been dealt with wrong, that completely wrong but i had very little input into the case. diane matthews. little input into the case. diane matthews, your little input into the case. diane matthews, your colleague, i little input into the case. diane l matthews, your colleague, didn t think there was a case of theft. she would have discussed that with you? not necessarily. she would have discussed that with you? not necessarily. not necessarily. she didn t think t
via the casework team for anything from fujitsu. via the casework team for anything from fuiitsu- from fujitsu. you said your understanding from fujitsu. you said your understanding of from fujitsu. you said your understanding of an - from fujitsu. you said your understanding of an expert from fujitsu. you said your - understanding of an expert witness is someone who has greater knowledge. is someone who has greater knowledge- is someone who has greater knowledue. ., ., is someone who has greater knowledue. , ., ., ., knowledge. somebody who had more knowledue knowledge. somebody who had more knowledge of knowledge. somebody who had more knowledge of a knowledge. somebody who had more knowledge of a particular knowledge. somebody who had more knowledge of a particular field - knowledge. somebody who had more knowledge of a particular field than i knowledge of a particular field than someone else would be considered an expert. someone else would be considered an exert. ., . ,
you have to communicate with that department because integral to your duties in the security department was the enforcement of the contractual duties of sub postmasters. contractual duties of sub-postmasters. contractual duties of sub-ostmasters. ., , contractual duties of sub-ostmasters. ., sub-postmasters. the call logs would have been requested sub-postmasters. the call logs would have been requested and sub-postmasters. the call logs would have been requested and there i sub-postmasters. the call logs would have been requested and there is i have been requested and there is nothing on the call logs to indicate there was any issues with horizon. i would not be creating with the nbsc team all the time, that s their role. , ., team all the time, that s their role. ., ., team all the time, that s their role. ., ., , , role. but you would have surely obtained as role. but you would have surely obtained as part role. but you would have surely obtained as part of role. but y
above you, that it was going to be business as usual, keep prosecuting, don t admit anything. don t admit anything. prosecutions sto ed don t admit anything. prosecutions stopped and don t admit anything. prosecutions stopped and they don t admit anything. prosecutions stopped and they were don t admit anything. prosecutions stopped and they were relying i don t admit anything. prosecutions stopped and they were relying on | don t admit anything. prosecutionsj stopped and they were relying on a subject matter expert to come down and they said once the expert had done his part, they expected it to go back to normal. but that never materialised. materialised. janet skinner, who sits behind materialised. janet skinner, who sits behind me, materialised. janet skinner, who sits behind me, whom materialised. janet skinner, who sits behind me, whom you i materialised. janet skinner, who i sits behind me, whom you interview together with your colleague diane matthews, made 116 ca