the president has two things working against him here. one is that he and the team around him are completely inexperienced at the legislative process and it s showing. that s a non-trivial problem he has. he doesn t know how it works and then he has his own impulsive behavior as you said, neil and so i don t think it s planned. i don t think it s productive for anybody. as you point out, neil, a lot of americans want tax reform across the ideological spectrum and he hurts his chances every time. neil: do you think we ll get it adam? adam: no. neil: do you think? really? adam: no because he is not leading to bring anybody together. on other issues it looks like he s going to bring people together and then he listens to somebody and goes off the rails again and so this is something that needs presidential leadership. neil: well that s not all his fault right? you have democrats that go back and forth a couple republicans who legitimately are trying, right? adam: and i agree b
with you afterwards of course and the next generation of primers are, well, coming up. i don t know if that s a good or bad thing adam what do you think adam: well i think it s a good thing. it s just the reality this is how these kids shop just this week my daughter was shopping on amazon. she s not quite 11 and she did ask for permission but over time we ll see what happens. i think this is a good thing given where things are developing. neil: what was she trying to buy? adam: i don t know. no she was buying her halloween costume. it was very innocent, neil. neil: i thought it was like a patty hurst outfit, i m kidding, just kidding. [laughter] neil: deirdre you always get nervous about this sort of stuff i can see the wisdom in the next generation of amazon customers. it is easy to use kids are probably more sophisticated with this than certainly deirdre: i m not going to
retiring wallflower kind of guy. he s into controversy and started fights himself. he is a fighter that part of his image, to me, it s like mcdonald s now trying to sell vegan burgers, right? he s really going against his brand and i do think a lot of the places where he sells music are actually places that went for trump. i mean, west virginia, parts of kentucky, the ozarks. there are a lot of places where people are buying his music because it s all digital sales. neil: but it s not just him right? i hear you, but adam, it is something that s getting widespread not just being critical, but being critical of the audience that might like you and donald trump, seth meyers and expanding group of people said keep it going. if deirdre and charles are right and i agree with them you ll say this is because of my perspective i think we ought to be giving him a patton the back. he is putting his business at
literally that s how much he spends and i don t want him or anybody else s children spending any more money on amazon. i love amazon. mr. bezos is the greatest businessman in the history of retailing by far, but encouraging people to use amazon is like encouraging them to use crack. [laughter] little different. ben: but you know charles payne it s not as if it s out of the norm or as usual as adam pointed out others do it, have done it, continue to do it. it s a way a lot of kids already do it. they always say look and the parents can write-off on this. would you endorse that your kids were doing that? charles: no i think i agree with deirdre. great for amazon, bad for parents, bad for anyone worried about or in the evolution of a handful of tech names and my son had an uber account for three years before i found out and by the time i did, using my credit card it was a $4000 bill, so i don t know you re offering up control. they have a solution to your
that comes back neil: no you don t you don t agree with what i said. adam: i do. neil: [laughter] adam: if you take just the example of corker, it s his responsibility to be the bigger man and he s almost incapable of that. neil: well, you know, this is a point i raise and i always hear it from those who called me a never trumpers or a global it s, i tell people, i thought they were referring to my weight size but i ll tell you charles payne what worries me about this kind of talk is you re free to have very tough views and grab people by the collar behind closed doors, lbj was effective with that. jfk had his moments, richard nixon as ben stein could attest, but i don t know if doing it out in public secures you the kind of loyalty you ll want down the road even beyond these, that s all i m saying, what do you think? charles: there s merit to