with the political drama in hong kong except this was a transport hub for them to move around the world and their lives have been put in limbo by this. and this is a city divided right now, john. there are people who describe themselves as black, supporters of the protest movement, and blue, supporters of the authorities, and many, many families that you talk to here are completely split along political lines as this drama now goes into its third month. and to the third month part, you mentioned the two camps if you will, the black and the blue, the black being the protesters, the blue being the more pro authority. i asked this question of paula watson earlier paula hancocks, excuse me, and you re there action iv there, ivan watson, on the scene. is there anyone there who has a viable proposal for some sort of a dialogue off-ramp?