generation, in the 60s and the advertising business. i have some of those roots, i have good pals from those days and i started the steppenwolf theatre with. lots of the early history is in the book. neil: she saw something in you. i tell a wonderful story about the first time i was ever in a play and how much that meant to me, and how it changed my life and sent it on this acting course that i ended up being able to make a living doing that. neil: a while with the lack of self absorption, you could never be a cable news anchor. this is a great information, the journey from self to service. we lost go to the steps of the