so he showed an ability to cross lines that hadn t been crossed before. but in terms of presidential race it was really when he won the iowa caucuses that i felt that this was going to go. i saw glimpses of the possibility earlier. certainly his speech at the convention in 2004 was a harbinger of something. but it was really when he won the iowa caucuses in the state that was 98% white that it that that looked to me like the country was was ready. after he takes this long, as he calls it, very nice vacation, with his better half, what do you think is the single most important thing to him to accomplish in his post-presidency? and for whom? you know, he addressed that poppy at the end of the podcast and he said that he saw his role now as trying to lift up, shine
good guy that had a bad day. maybe he should apologize. he used that expression and ought to take it back. they had a very good ad that ran yesterday. almost on the first very positive ad compared to good morning in america ad. on the same day within the same news cycle they step on it by calling their opponents contract killers. i think this happens time after time and the president never has the willingness to take on his own base. it s only the republicans that cross lines. he sited bill maher s attacks against the right. he said the president should return the money that he donated to the obama super pack. it is now 17 minutes after the hour and here is come of the stories we are following at this hour. the family of missing hollywood executive gavin smith speaking out saying he would never abandon them. his whereabouts a friend s house
democrats going on msnbc and i really still get comments about it which is why i wanted to come back on again. thank you. i appreciate it. i know you have infinite choice as to where you re going to talk about the book so thank you. but what we talked about a year and a half ago and what you wrote about the daily beast and you talk about in the book is this sort of plea for it to be okay for republicans not only to cross lines and come talk with liberals and stuff like this but also for it to be okay for republicans to be moderates. yes. the party does not seem to be taking your advice on that this year. right now i don t think it is. i have friends, they bet what is going to happen. is this election year the turning point? when will people see on a very organic level if you make the party smaller you have less voters. where do you go from there? i know what it feels like to be alienated. i talk very candidly about how i felt alienated about the campaign. i worry about the dire
thank you. i appreciate it. i know you have infinite choice as to where you re going to talk about the book so thank you. but what we talked about a year and a half ago and what you wrote about the daily beast and you talk about in the book is this sort of plea for it to be okay for republicans not only to cross lines and come talk with liberals and stuff like this but also for it to be okay for republicans to be moderates. yes. the party does not seem to be taking your advice on that this year. right now doint think i don is. i have friends, they bet what is going to happen. is this election year the turning point? when will people see on a very organic level if you make the party smaller you have less voters. where do you go from there? i know what it feels like to be alienated. i talk very kanld idiosyncrasy y candidly about how i felt alienated on the campaign. we re so polarized and it s us versus them and i think it is a very scary place and that s why i continue to do
the president doesn t relish the prospect of getting back into the day-to-day fights that characterize governing the united states of america in the 21st century. the president doesn t have much interest in weighing in on the tax reform proposal that the trump folks are promising to release. he doesnspent the last eight ye doing it, it s somebody else s turn. what will reengage him in the political debate if we saw the government cross lines in terms of long-on served norms and values that we have started to take for grant it. one example is if we saw the federal government begin to use the information that was submitted by dreamers to round them up and send them out of the country, that would represent a broken promise to those