to attack our election. because an election is the only thing that makes us a republic. right. it s really well stated. i m out of time. quickly, please. the thing is pelosi has to do something about this. if she doesn t, she could be accused of following the same logic of donald trump, in order to hold on to political power, i will sublimate the rule of law. that s strong coming from you. we have heard a lot of views tonight but i think we re landing with several of the panelists talking about the nonpartisan questions of how do you resolve this, regardless of whatever the short-term politics may be for whichever party. richard painter, britney cooper, feel smarter and more concerned having listened to each of you at the top of our show. thank you. coming up, neil katyal is here. the legal peril that could face some of trump s aides now that he has put them and everyone on
good evening. you make this case, why? well, i think what donald trump has done here, and you know, the facts are still coming out, but if they re the ones that we re reading about in the newspaper, it s about as grave in the fence as you can imagine. i mean, even richard nixon, when he ordered the water gate break and didn t have the imagination to outsource to a foreign government or foreign intelligence service, here donald trump is doing exactly that, and you know, these are funds that were appropriated by congress, $250 million that was supposed to go to ukraine, and according to these allegations, the president held that up not because of some foreign policy interest of the united states but because of his personal interests because he wanted the e ukrainians to go after his political opponent. i have been dying to ask you this, at a constitutional level, abuse of power, is there any major distinction between the
its powers to penalize and pressure and basically deter anyone helping donald trump do what, if he s president, he might otherwise get away with. none of these options are obviously mutually exclusive. if you think about what is available within our system of government, constitutionally and legally, the congress could pursue most of these, and whether the executive branch pursues a special counsel is something that gets decided in the interplay of pressure with the public and the congress. i want to bring in former federal prosecutor john flannery to walk through different doors. good to be here. i wanted to bring you in this part, folks watching the beat tonight we have gone through the facts and the legal issues, is a constitutional abuse of power. now we widen across multiple options. what do you see as important, and is trump winning the cynicism war if democrats and other individuals aren t talking about a special counsel when it
of this that you would expect anyone to want to deny because it sounds so bad, and two, in the russia context, trump was a candidate. so he had to give that directive order in public, if he was going to get anywhere with it. now he s the president. so you don t hear the same direct language demanding ukraine do it because at least according to what are now accounts in multiple publications, that part he did in private, urging them eight times to go after his rival, and the larger context is of course that donald trump publicly said he s welcoming offer of dirt for 2020, told george stephanopoulos, and confiscated his interpreter s notes, with putin. we re in the territory of raising the question, what else is donald trump asking foreign leaders to secretly do to keep his grip on political power. did the president threaten to
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