agreement among these four men at least that they did want to take part in violence, that they wanted to get people interested in politics and then were so angered by the result of the 2020 election that they wanted to then try and overthrow the u.s. government or block or hinder the laws of the u.s. government, a very, very significant accusation. at the end of the day, it carries a similar possibility of prison time to other counts that these men are charged with, but just the decision alone by the justice department to bring a seditious conspiracy case here and to be able to secure it, to secure the guilty convictions by this jury, that is a big deal. yes, it sure is. all right, katelyn stand by, thank you so much for that update. let s go back to sara sidner again. you ve been covering these cases since they really began for months and months now. i want to get your reaction to what katelyn just updated us with, but also i would like you