the negotiations and where we will progress in our negotiations. i m interested in north macedonia s stance on ukraine, because you have neighbours, for example serbia, which have a traditionally warm relationship with moscow, other neighbors like bulgaria and greece, which are heavily reliant on russian energy and for one reason or another appear to be perhaps dragging their feet to a certain extent on some of the sanctions against moscow, but you here in north macedonia have been strong in your condemnation of putin, strong in your determination to assist ukraine with weapons. why do you see it as so much in your interest to be so strong in support of kyiv? the answer is exactly
some of the opposition parties? some of the opposition parties. what, you re accusing them of being influenced, effected by russia ? not that they are influenced, they are going on meetings in russia. so they have a political program which is aligned with their russian political partners. also, we have media which have been influenced by third parties, among which probably there is a russian influence. so there is a certain infrastructure which has been put in place during our accession to nato. this infrastructure has been even made stronger during the covid pandemics and the inability of european union to deliver through the covax mechanism immediately on the vaccines when the pandemic started. so later on, they delivered big quantities of vaccines from the european union covax mechanism. but at the beginning this was not the case, so this hysteria was again spread by this media and political and analytical infrastructure. and then it was even stronger during our start
and pipelines going from south to the north, and not like now only from east. right, but the bottom line is you face an energy crisis this winter. your electricity production is down. all europe faces energy crisis. absolutely, so i come back to this question russia is a dangerous enemy. and i m going to ask you again directly, right now, do you think russia is meddling in north macedonian politics as your own president has accused them? so third countries here, including russia, has always had the interests of having frozen conflicts on the balkans. and this has always been. if we see it from time perspective, there are countries where the ties are, and the public opinion is, more strong towards russia, on the balkans. and there are countries where this opinion and this influence is less significant.
there are countries which are less dependent and there are countries which are not dependent, like the ones which are to the far west portugal, spain and so on. we are in the group of countries which are fully dependent on russian gas, and this has been historically because of the state of economy, relations from the past and so on. and during this crisis, it s always a possibility for, an opportunity for changes and for improvement. so that is why we have started a lot of infrastructural projects in order to disperse and to diversify our energy supply, especially in terms of gas supply, by building new interconnectors and pipelines going from south to the north, and not like now only from east. right, but the bottom line is you face an energy crisis this winter. your electricity production is down. all europe faces energy crisis.
thing just drags on and on? it literally is genocide and we know from photo bz and just like you said the thousands of people that have been removed out of are uke yap an put into russian homes. there s not been a greater global threat to the world since hitler and as much as what putin is doing in the ukraine is very similar to the nazis. this is only going to get worse and this is why we have to continue our support as a have i large scale. i don t know why russia is on the u.n. security global. they are the biggest threat to security since world war ii. or why the newly elected president of france macron is saying don t humiliate putin. why not? absolutely. this isn t a normal dispute.