directed me to the footage of the beating outside the danish brotherhood lodge. quote, this, he wrote this to me in a facebook message, is what triggered us citizens that day. then specifically about kyle writtenhous, who was accused of killing two people and injuried a third. quote, prosecutors have yet to produce evidence that he held extremist views. throughout the evening, he was surrounded by men who were undisciplined with their firearms and more aggressive toward the demonstrators. the facebook pages and reddit threads were full of fantasies about shooting people in the streets. joining us now, one of the most widely listened to, watched and respects journalist in the country. cara swisher, host of the podcast, sway and pivot. i ve wanted to talk to you for so long about everything that s happened and i feel like we ve been having the conversation for
and i would agree with you that there are other things they should be talking about. jobs are up. wages are up. the deficit is down. what s wrong with that? we ve got economics on our side right now. you will never be done explaining psychology of being a democrat to me. jonathan, donna, thank you so much. claire sticks around. when we come back, as facebook continues to face new scrutiny, a lot of it from inside, there s reporting today offering another cultural flash point where facebook front and center. the road ahead for the social media giant. plus, officer fanone saying the american people deserve to know who participated in what he says is sedition against our country. and later in the program, desperation by republicans to control elections nationwide. the tipping point for democrats who are seeking to preserve american democracy all by themselves. all those stories and more when
going to sort of brazen it out again because they ve done it a number of times, the kind of thing. there s been sort of mini or smaller crisis, but crisis none is. there s a couple of things they might do. on thursday, supposedly, this has been a lot of reporting, they re going to change the name of the company and create a larger conglomerate that holds all the different divisions of facebook of which there are many. instagram, occulus. he might not be the ceo of facebook anymore. he might put someone in place then become the ceo of this other corporation and essentially disappear because he s the personification of the problem and that s unfortunately the problem with a lot of founders and so it will be interesting to see what they do on that, but that might be a tactic they use to move him out of the spotlight. do they have any shame about
conspiracy theory. among 17 different news organizations. obviously, this has been well coordinated by the whistleblower and so what. she knows what she s up against, but i think to call it, he s sort of calling it a conspiracy theory, i think that s what s going on there. that s what it sounds like. and my time in politics when you have no facts and you have no high ground, you allege malarky or a conspiracy theory. donny, i want to bring you in on this notion of a name change. you can t be as big as facebook and sweep your problems under the rug by changing your name, can you? well, it s a strategic decision. they want to be known, the future according to zuckerberg, he s not wrong, is everything is virtual reality and what he s calling the metaverse, where social media and the internet meet virtual reality. they just invested $10 billion in it. he wants to known, it s like say facebook is the cigarette company, but they re into other things that it s just a piece of
think it s the same with people like ted cruz. well, he s smart because he went to harvard. no, he s not smart. we can t say zuckerberg s not a bad guy. he is a bad guy. i think, all right, let me clarify. i think a lot of this stuff goes into his personal looks, all kinds of things. no, not that. architecture. i think he gets a lot of that and it takes away from the real point which is that this guy cannot run this company in the way it needs to be run because anyone could have a difficult time dealing with all these social, political, everything else that s happened on facebook and he s entirely incompetent to the task, even though he s a terrific technologist. i think one of the issues we have here is everything is within mark zuckerberg and it s a bigger, larger problem the fact that congress hasn t done a thing to regulate any of tech. if you want to add up all the laws that help regulate tech, you d come to the number, zero.