and this is an unstable place that they re in. so let s get some perspective about how big this challenge is. we have paul sumner, rescue dive instructor. more than 30 years experience. he s been in these kinds of situations. he knows what we re dealing with. paul, thank you very much. we were talking before we started the segment. amazing that they were found alive in those conditions. yes. they all seem to be intact and well. but, boy, do they have some challenges in their way. what do you see? most certainly. most certainly, chris. as not only a rescue dive instructor, but as a cave diver, i m a trained cave diver as well. to put this in perspective, they re going to if they do what the navy s.e.a.l.s are attempting to do, you re going to take kids and an adult that have never, ever been on scuba before. let s put that at a zero on a scale of zero to 100. and take them to a cave dive, a very advanced, very technical training curriculum that takes
standard. no. listen, i think the president is angry with the news media and rightfully so because they re trying to delegitimize his election. you just put out there did it matter, and you had two people who get targeted by the president who didn t jump up and say, yes, it does. it was really bad. so why demonize us? listen, the next time i talk to him, i ll make sure to give you and van props with him. i m saying i never heard anybody say in the media that, we have to get to the bottom of this because it s the only reason he s president. that s only him who says that. no. that s only left of center. chris, if you are honestly saying, and van, if you guys are saying that the left does not say but for this meddling, donald trump wouldn t be president i ve heard that about comey. but i think that the big concern, van, left, right, and center, should be they re going to do it again. and we ve been so busy right. dealing with definitions and parameters so that trump
upside for them to do that than to do what they did. but what should happen now it won t, but what should happen now is now that you ve got a bipartisan republican-led but bipartisan statement that says for sure we are under attack, we should start coming together now. we shouldn t be all, well, what about this? what about that? we ve got a problem. we ve got a democracy being undermined, and yet i guarantee you you re not going to have the president walk up tomorrow morning to a microphone and say that, and that s unfortunate. you don t have to be a prognosticator. we just had the president put out a tweet a few days ago saying, you know, putin denies. now, help us understand. why would the president say something that he knows his intel community doesn t share, that he knows is probably untrue, but he says it anyway? chris, first of all, let me start by congratulating you. after 30 days on the air, of having the number one rated show on cnn. oh, very kind. why didn t you me
political opinions. pete is not the only one who didn t like trump, and there are a lot of people in the fbi who really, really disliked hillary and bill clinton. it doesn t mean that they but they weren t in a position to act on a threat of, we ll stop it. yeah, well, i don t know why you think that that s a threat. i think that what how would you characterize it? that is right about when trump was talking about the khan family, and i don t think that pete or lisa page or, you know, hundreds of millions of other americans, including a lot of republicans, thought that it was you know, there was a chance in hell that donald trump was going to be elected at that point. look, the allegations i was talking about, chris, that don t have a shred of truth, are the ones that put pete strzok at the center of this secret society, this dumb le doer s army kind o underground cell in the fbi. there s no truth to that. they took that from his conversations also, but i ve never seen i
politics, we don t like the cutting of medicaid and medicare and some of what we are hearing from the republican party. let s go back to the drawing board again. senator hold on there. i want to bring in tom perez the chairman of the democratic national committee. thank you for coming on. does this hearten your chances to take the senate next year? you are now within a vote or two of winning this thing. takes you 51 to control the thing. do you think you have got a shot now in 2018 to win the senate. absolutely chris. you look at nevada, you look at arizona, you look at tennessee. you look at other opportunities out there. and what i ve learned from the last 12 months is democrats can win virtually anywhere. if we lead with our values, if we have candidates like doug jones and what we saw tonight was this wasn t about right versus left, this was about right versus wrong. this was about voters in alabama who put country over party. and there are opportunities everywhere.