risks, fees, expenses, and other information welcome back to hardball. former virginia governor doug water wrote a piece monday for politico with the headline obama/clinton ticket for 2010. here s some of what he wrote. can all the president s political ills be laid at biden s feet? no, but obama must make a wholesale change. the vice president should not be immune. clinton is better fitted as the partner that obama needs. and today vice president biden s hometown newspaper news journal in wilmington delaware slapped that story on the front page with the headline dump biden, former virginia governor urges obama. white house press secretary
obama is faced with the notion of clinton following him anyway, so why not make the best of that situation. never heard this before. and put this to her advantage. all her people deny that, of course. of course they do, but i i think it s fascinating. i don t think there s anybody who believes them. i think she s done a great job and help in pennsylvania and ohio and by the way the general election of 2012 now looks like a nail-biter, closely run and they won t much south of the mason dixon line. they need to win the old democratic states, indiana, ohio, pennsylvania, pennsylvania, new york, where the clintons are strong. joe biden has to be happen we this, needs to have a smile on his face and say i can t wait to get to foggy bottom and be secretary of state convincingly, if this ever happens. and i think he could say that, chris, because as you know, before before obama urged him to become vice president, picked him, that s what biden had his eye on. he wanted t
transitional president stuck in the way between the two clinton presidencies somewhere. that s not exactly the transformational democratic presidency he s promised. he s not had two years yet, chris. he s not even had two years yet. so he s got another two years, plus four years. that s six years for him to put him imprimatur on the nation. when do you want him to make this announcement? oh, he s got time. i don t expect him to make this decision within the next six months or the next year or so. okay. what this does it suggests that there s a time to consider what s necessary for winning. and i think if you look at it, and look at the gaffes, and i m going to lead the gaffs to be what do you do with the body, governor? what do you do with the body? what do you do with biden? the body because you re killing this guy politically. the president can speak to him about it. let me ask you a question. do you think joe biden could run for president and win? no. not now. he r
i also like joe biden. thank you for causing trouble on hardball. i like him, too. we fish in troubled waters, governor. you re a big democrat and you re making noise. john heilemann covers politics. he wrote game change. you talk about game change. you start whispering this in certain corners and you re going to make the delaware democrats like biden, scranton democrats, all the people like biden upset at dumping the most loyal guy on the team, you might say. it s true. the thing i think governor wilder is wrong about is he made a point of him being a liability. the white house doesn t see it that way. they love biden over there. i think the president and biden are very close. i don t think there s an active consideration about this. i don t think they would be thinking about it and if they get to the point of thinking about it, it won t be about dumping biden. i think the answer to your question, chris, what do you do with the body, this would be portrayed as a big job swit
that sounds naive. we wanted them to ask the questions we want to answer so they report the news the way we want it to be reported. when i get on a show, and i say send money to sharronangle.com so your listeners will know to go to sharronangle.com. that s the most incredible 26 seconds in television history for a long time. she thinks a network s job is to set her up to give her the questions she gives the right answers to that she s already written out. amazing stuff. the talking points, and then she wants to have us serve or at least fox to serve as a way for her to raise money. get the idea. fox is supposed to go along with that marriage. plus, i wonder how they got the idea fox who is doing it. who is doug water and why is he sayi ining terrible things aboue biden? where does the former governor of virginia come off asking president obama to dump the most loyal guy on his team? and what about putting hillary clinton on the ticket next time?