abdelhamid abaqoud. there were threats to public transportation and schools. in terms of michael, where this guy might be, i mean, i guess the networks in belgium themselves are pretty extensive of former fighters he could be potentially hiding. not even that. so depending on who you ask, maybe 150 0 or maybe more than that receive some measure of training and come back. forget about them for a second. what about the islam or jihad travelers, people that may have been recruited by returning jihads in europe. who may not be on the radar. completely. whole city haves given themselves over and become in a sense out of middle east, right? some of the more scuffling areas of beirut or baghdad. it s not that difficult. again, the belgiums shut down the entire city going house to house and we don t know what they really got up to during that 72-hour period. i m sure they are casting as wide a net as possible and he
arrested in france and belgium but so far, no direct contacts, not many direct contacts of the cells themselves. do you think they are reaching the ends of the groups directly involved with the attacks? reporter: no, i don t think that. it seems the more they are pulling on the threads, the more they realize the network stretches further than they thought. let s look at the raids in saint-denis for example. abdelhamid abaqoud was killed with his 26-year-old cousin, we thought the female cousin was responsible for detonating the vest, we learned there was a third person in the apartment and that it was he who detonated that explosive vest and yet, we have no idea who he is. now what does that say about how far along investigators are? obviously, there is a sense they
trying to priest that together but given she was in the safe house when they are about to go and launch one of the worst terrorists atrocities in european history suggests perhaps some degree of complicity and what i can say and what investigators do say is that abdelhamid abaqoud, her cousin had a track record of brainwashing family members, recruiting family members into isis. in 2014 he brought his younger brother when he was just 13 years old, unis all the way to syria to join isis, especially kidnapped him, family were very, very upset, obviously about this. and this young kid thought to be one of the very youngest isis fighters. so possible certainly she was involved but investigators trying to piece that together. tom fuentas, these suicide vests sophisticated.
when police stormed the building where she lives. she had no idea abdelhamid abaqoud, the mastermind of the paris attacks was just two floors above. translator: there were police everywhere. every floor, every place, we didn t know why. we were in a panic and we stayed there until 5:00 a.m., two hours in the apartment in a small hallway. me and my friend and her three kids. reporter: she told us how the walls were shaking with the force of the blasts. she was convinced she was going to die. translator: we saw nothing but death. for the kids, it was so horrible. it was like a nightmare. reporter: were they crying, i asked? translator: yes, they were screaming and crying. the little one who is 5 years old, the little boy asked his mom are we going to die? it was horrifying. reporter: after two agonizing hours they were finally
something horrible. it s been reported he was very involved with his parent s business in brussels. he was presiding over board meetings in 2013. when did his father learn or think, notice for the first time that his son was becoming radicalized? it was during 2013. his son was beginning to make a lot of critics, concerning the way the father was educating the small kids because he was educating them, you know, like european. abdelhamid was upset about that. he said horrible things.