and hating and wreaking havoc and fear? is that what is that the recommendation? i think we are living in a time that proves that point even more so. so it s not about the politics for her. it s about the principle. that s right. you know, she talks about really not liking politics in the book. you know, so i m sure the question is going to come up, is she going to run for office. she says emphatically in the book that she s not. that ten years spent in the spotlight in public life in the political sphere showed her that it s just a very nasty space and it s not something that she wants to do. the obamas are going to have to attend big events with the trumps for years to come. how is she able to do this when she obviously dislikes him so much? she talked in the book, you know, she doesn t answer that question but she talks about being a person of grace and
i m loyal. to a fault, i m loyal. loyalty. you know, some of these people have like a 10% loyalty meaning if they sneeze in the wrong direction they re gone. whitaker reportedly has no intention of recusing himself from the russia investigation. if he did, it s hard to imagine how and why he would have gotten the job in the first place. so let s talk about it. john barrett is a law professor at st. john s university, and john dean is a former white house nixon counsel. perfect gentlemen to talk about and no hard names because they re both johns. i ll get them both right. this is for john barrett. good evening to both of you, by the way. let s start with the new reporting i just talked about. before sessions resigned at least one justice official said that it may not be constitutional or they had questions about his appointment. what s your reaction to that? it s a very serious question. he is the principal law enforcement officer acting as a cabinet official. and he s never been
come from under because of the deep seated racism in this country. he understands exactly what he s saying and doing when he uses those types of terms when referring to african-americans in general and african-american women in many particular. and it was just to hear what he was saying to abby, all of it was bad from the first lady to april to yamiche, but that clip that you just played about what he said to abby made my skin crawl. it made me cringe. he is doing these kinds of things deliberately. he should be ashamed of himself. but i know that he is not. i want to put this up. this is another view of president trump addressing our very own look at that, okay. abby. he is a bully. alice, look at that, addressing first of all, a president saying that s a stupid question, but beyond that, go on. tell me.
journal reporting that the feds have evidence that president trump was directly involved in paying off stormy daniels, karen mcdougal. do you get the sense that campaign finance laws were violated here? it certainly would appear that way. as i read that wall street journal story, i could just envision the indictment that could come out of all that, a conspiracy to violate the federal campaign laws. whether that will happen or not since michael cohen has pled is a good question. i doubt there will be much further litigation on this in the sense of a prosecution. but david pecker was also mentioned prominently in that story. and he appears that he might have had a an immunity deal as wisenberg from the trump organization clearly got an immunity deal. so i don t know that that case is going to go much further. but it is a certainly evidence of a conspiracy. so this is according to the journal, john barrett, trump
job or any current job that he holds confirmed by the senate. under the appointments clause, there s a serious constitutional question involved. the d.c. circuit in a federal grand jury case involving the mueller investigation has just called for supplemental briefing on that question. a lot of smart constitutional lawyers think that there is a real serious doubt that he s lawfully in office. i want to read this because trump just tweeted on matthew whitaker tonight from paris. take a look at this. he said matthew g. whitaker is a highly respected u.s. attorney from iowa. he was chosen by jeff sessions to be his chief of staff. i did not note mr. whitaker. likewise as chief, i did not note mr. whitaker except as he traveled with ag sessions. no social contract. he s on the defense here. what does this tell you about his thinking, john? he knows now there is a big problem. he knows there is a problem with the legality of whitaker.