torturing, we re a law abiding country and torture is not permissible and when you have a prisoner to torture him, it s against the law. can you, mr. vice-president, ever envision a time when water-boarding should be used on anyone? no. no? no. sean: i want it s not effective. it s not effective. correct, it s not effective. sean: that s staggering. colonel, a staggering act of duplicity and hypocrisy, torture is not allowed, but killing without due process is. beam me up, scotty! help me out, colonel. i know, sean, you re absolutely right and i tell you again, i don t think that water-boarding is a torture, i think it s a lot of discomfort and disagree totally with the vice-president. of course, water-boarding can get people to talk and if it saves american lives we ought to be doing it whenever we have to not to just everybody out there, but the particular bad guys, but to compare