job. not only in terms of their own oh. charles: a serious black eye for everybody involved. absolutely. at the same time, they ll find out through the department of justice, the fbi, the department of bureau of prisons that has their own inspection, the inspector general. several independent outside agencies looking at this. so at the end of the day, there s going to be a pretty clear independent view of what happened. charles: how surprised were you that it did happen considering that epstein apparently tried to commit suicide a week earlier? i don t know the results of that initial investigation. was it an attempted suicide? was there something else involved? clearly i think everybody was kind of surprised the way it happened. charles: well, bob, we appreciate your expertise. particularly during these times. thanks very much. thanks but no thanks. rashida talib dismissing israel s offer to let her visit the west bank on humanitarian grounds.