there s another override that goes beyond five minutes. i can override the key pad and hold in the locked position. he cannot use the key pad or get in. to keep your co-pilot out, what do you have to do? if he knew the keyboard pad to get in i hold the lock. he cannot get in. can you manually fly this and hold the lock button? yes, easy. that s a purposeful act? very much so. again and again we fly through the scenarios in auto pilot and manuel. both managed to crash the plane. both had to be deliberately programmed or flown into the ground. what does that suggest to you as his determination? he was very determined. that was his goal. he had a mission or goal to kill himself and everybody on board. we deal with terrorists and people that aren t supposed to be in the cockpit. this person is supposed to be in the cockpit. that s scary.